GM says.... BRING IT!
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thank god...i was going nuts wondering wtf 230 was.
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2002 Suzuki Hayabusa
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Brocks megaphone
Spencercycle 10" swingarm
MPS auto shifter
Hays convertible clutch
Yea, that about sums it up...
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230 mpg is stronggggg
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yea it's truly a game changer.. sure. some electric only models are getting equalivent to 300mpg but none can be driven cross country without stopping every 100 miles. where the volt can. First the Zr1 then CTS-V now this.. Good job GM
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Isn't the Nissan Leaf already sporting more mileage and a lower sticker price?
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It's all marketing BS. The Volt's "MPG" is entirely related to the length and speed of the trip. (not unlike other hybrids that can travel a certain distance on battery power only... like the Fusion Hybrid) The term "MPG" becomes increasingly less relevant when the car can be plugged in to obtain energy from an alternate source.
The Leaf is a completely electric vehicle. I don't know how or why they even bother putting an "MPG" number on it. It burns NO fuel. Ever. Doesn't even have an engine. It's like assigning an MPG value to your refrigerator, it makes no sense.
The Leaf is a completely electric vehicle. I don't know how or why they even bother putting an "MPG" number on it. It burns NO fuel. Ever. Doesn't even have an engine. It's like assigning an MPG value to your refrigerator, it makes no sense.
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The major difference between Volt and Leaf, besides the fact the Leaf is a true electric car and Volt just pretends to be one 
, is that Nissan will not be selling Leaf with the battery. Battery will be leased.
Most people can't swallow a sticker price of the battery, its around 10K just for the battery, no way this will compete with gas cars, so Nissan came up with excellent marketing strategy, you buy and own the car at some $15K and sign the lease for the battery. This way you pay monthly bill for battery, just like you spend money on gas every month, plus few more $ on electric bill for recharge and NEVER BUY GAS again.
Of course the devil is in the details of the lease contract, which is not available yet. But as long as monthly battery bill plus few bucks on electric bill is less or equal of what you typically spend on gas, then you are good to go electric
IMHO, this is the best marketing strategy to get EVs on the road and start competeing with gassers. At some point they may also sell the battery to those who prefer the buy option over lease option, but lease opens the door to the new market. Way to go Nissan!!!!!
, is that Nissan will not be selling Leaf with the battery. Battery will be leased.Most people can't swallow a sticker price of the battery, its around 10K just for the battery, no way this will compete with gas cars, so Nissan came up with excellent marketing strategy, you buy and own the car at some $15K and sign the lease for the battery. This way you pay monthly bill for battery, just like you spend money on gas every month, plus few more $ on electric bill for recharge and NEVER BUY GAS again.
Of course the devil is in the details of the lease contract, which is not available yet. But as long as monthly battery bill plus few bucks on electric bill is less or equal of what you typically spend on gas, then you are good to go electric
IMHO, this is the best marketing strategy to get EVs on the road and start competeing with gassers. At some point they may also sell the battery to those who prefer the buy option over lease option, but lease opens the door to the new market. Way to go Nissan!!!!!
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More homo car wars. I'll take a 400HP Corvette that gets 29mpg, please.
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