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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattism78
I'm not quite to the point of calling people. I'd like a general idea of what direction I'm headed. All motor, forced induction, etc...

As for the driveability on the stall. I have been reading a LOT on LS1tech about stalls. I gathered the same thing about the Yank. I was set on the Yank actually. Until the owner of Fuddle PM'd me, and showed me some threads with feedback on his item.
oh ill have to look into fuddle , but the transgo im set on
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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huge cam (trex maybe I'm no LS1 cam expert), long tubes w/ dual cutouts, dr's, 3.73 gears, 3xxx stall, tranny cooler, and a small shot of n2o followed with some prayers for your tranny and rear end
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Long tubes, cut out, Yank converter, tranny cooler, the cam Al just recommended
Originally Posted by HybridSS
Typically for a good street mannered car thats gonna perform well at the track I would go with a Cam such as the one RX sells Its a 224/228 cam on a 113 LSA. Great split between power and drivabilty. Youll need springs with that as well.
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, and a tune by Jeremy. Add in your choice of rear tires that hook and you'll have a car that will run low 12's - high 11's at the track yet still drive very much like stock on the street.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Half Fast
Long tubes, cut out, Yank converter, tranny cooler, the cam Al just recommended, and a tune by Jeremy. Add in your choice of rear tires that hook and you'll have a car that will run low 12's - high 11's at the track yet still drive very much like stock on the street.
IIRC doesn't the TREX peak out at something like 7k rpms? I know when it first came out they were saying it wasn't such a great idea for street cars.

Who's Jeremy?
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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1) get in a car with a bigger stall. its the ONLY way to figure out what you can handle.
2) stop reading ls1tech and making all your conclusions. i am a moderator there and i know it isnt the end all answer
3) i will never own a fuddle convertor. just a new sponser that has never made a car fast. just testimonials mainly by guys that have never owned a big convertor. buy proven. buy cheap and you will buy twice. i run a yank and love it. Vigilanti are very good. TCI is solid. price is nearly the same as the fuddle and has YEARS AND YEARS of experience building good combos. end of story.
4) convertor and LT headers before cam. dont buy a cam based on dyno graphs or other stupid posts. buy a cam that works with the convertor, gearing, tuner. Trex is stupid for your needs. i assume you dont want to push that motor to 7200-7300 rpms.

there are a LOT of people in this very forums that have proven combos and are in fact moderators on ls1tech. find out WHO is replying in a post and what experience THEY have in the combination before relying on their opinion.

i am your standard nearly full weight TA (heavier than your camaro) with a medium sized cam, a couple boltons, STOCK heads, automatic with yank convertor. 340 rwhp n/a

11.6-11.7 n/a
10.9 so far on the small NX shot.
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What makes you think you could of keep up with me. Have you ever had that car on a dyno?
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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I've always wondered gator, what tranny are you running? 4l60e? if so who did your build?
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gator
1) get in a car with a bigger stall. its the ONLY way to figure out what you can handle.
2) stop reading ls1tech and making all your conclusions. i am a moderator there and i know it isnt the end all answer
3) i will never own a fuddle convertor. just a new sponser that has never made a car fast. just testimonials mainly by guys that have never owned a big convertor. buy proven. buy cheap and you will buy twice. i run a yank and love it. Vigilanti are very good. TCI is solid. price is nearly the same as the fuddle and has YEARS AND YEARS of experience building good combos. end of story.
4) convertor and LT headers before cam. dont buy a cam based on dyno graphs or other stupid posts. buy a cam that works with the convertor, gearing, tuner. Trex is stupid for your needs. i assume you dont want to push that motor to 7200-7300 rpms.

there are a LOT of people in this very forums that have proven combos and are in fact moderators on ls1tech. find out WHO is replying in a post and what experience THEY have in the combination before relying on their opinion.

i am your standard nearly full weight TA (heavier than your camaro) with a medium sized cam, a couple boltons, STOCK heads, automatic with yank convertor. 340 rwhp n/a

11.6-11.7 n/a
10.9 so far on the small NX shot.

I really appreciate your opinion. But I think you're incorrect on a couple things. I never said LS1tech is the end all answer. I just use it as a guide. I take the information I get with a grain of salt. I just know that there's a lot of people on there that have used certain cam/head/stall setups and can give opinions on them.

I agree with the TREX comment. When I had my 99 WS.6 the cam had just come out and I did some reading on it. Badass cam, just too much for me.

I need to find someone with a stalled car. I've never even rode in one. Hell this is the first automatic I've ever owned. There's not many LS1 guys around here (Vero Beach).
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by myltwon
I've always wondered gator, what tranny are you running? 4l60e? if so who did your build?
4L60e - hundreds of passes. built using Art Carr parts. built by a guy i knew in KC when i was living out there for a little while. just used Art Carr specs. i am very happy. i have gotten what i wanted out of it. eveything after the 10 second pass has been a bonus. i am MEAN to this thing.

go get a ride in a stalled auto. a bunch of us have them here. come out to tampa sometime. be happy to give you a ride.

also i couldnt imagine how weak feeling an ls1 with even a medium sized cam and stock convertor would be! ugg. IMO the OEM cam is WAY too big for the OEM convertor.....think about that
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Stalled cars are alot of fun. I Have the typical LS1 automatic set up, and I would say the converter is the #1 mod. I wont put anything other than a yank in my car. You get what you pay for. I 've had the SS3600 for 2 years and its worked flawlessly.

But get ready to do a good rebuild on the tranny if you have a hard hitting converter. those 2.5-2.7 STRs are pretty rough!

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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With all that I know now. If this car is your daily, do NOT open the motor. With any cam (besides the LS6 cam) youll be changing springs every 12K TOPS! Comp 918s have a life of about 12k miles.... ususlly alot less.

Since I dont know your mods, I would get a good lid, filter, headers, 3500-3800 Yank stall, tranny cooler, good exhaust, gears, tires and a tune. Youll have the OEM reliability (since you didnt open the motor), but it will flat get up and go.

Just my $.02
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