TT346 LS1 goes 8.5 @ 162 with stock crank,stock block, stock head castings
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BTW...those times were at a measly 22-23 PSI. Apparently he was running out of gear and didnt want to push it. So he is doing a gear swap this week and probably will turn the boost up more. He may hit lower 8s at 170...alot more than I expected!!
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This is insane, but remember this is a race car. I think when turbos for our cars become more reliable in street setups I might switch to a turbo.
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Originally posted by HybridSS
No no...they were stock LS1 castings. They are still reworked with larger valves and porting. Probably flow in the 300 cfm range at .600 lift. About a $1400-1500 head if I had to guess.
No no...they were stock LS1 castings. They are still reworked with larger valves and porting. Probably flow in the 300 cfm range at .600 lift. About a $1400-1500 head if I had to guess.
I wasn't saying this guy has high dollar heads, what I was getting at is that a turboed car can go real fast without high dollar heads that nitrous, blower, and n/a powered cars require.
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yea man, nitrous is so expensive scott. maybe that is why you didnt run an expensive nitrous kit, when you can run an inexpensive turbo kit..... shrug. i have talked to ronnie and kurt urban personally and the builder says he has well over 100,000 dollars in that cheap turbo car, not counting the cost of the car. maybe he should have gone to see Sam 
as for ronnie duke leaving a ton in the car...well i dont know about that. sure it was a full interior car, but far from leaving everything. that cars raceweight was 3600 lbs - but remember it is a convertable with a full cage, wheelie bars, outragous intercooler system (that mimics the ford boys). also he ran those numbers with two power adders, so i dont know about not pushing it as hard as he could. 20-22 psi through a C5r motor = a LOT of cfm. i doubt he could have pushed it 30 psi through those heads and sheetmetal intake. if he could, he would and wouldnt have sprayed it. god that cat had more money than god in his car and quarter of a million dollar tow rig/semi.
as for ronnie duke leaving a ton in the car...well i dont know about that. sure it was a full interior car, but far from leaving everything. that cars raceweight was 3600 lbs - but remember it is a convertable with a full cage, wheelie bars, outragous intercooler system (that mimics the ford boys). also he ran those numbers with two power adders, so i dont know about not pushing it as hard as he could. 20-22 psi through a C5r motor = a LOT of cfm. i doubt he could have pushed it 30 psi through those heads and sheetmetal intake. if he could, he would and wouldnt have sprayed it. god that cat had more money than god in his car and quarter of a million dollar tow rig/semi.
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What makes you think you could of keep up with me. Have you ever had that car on a dyno?
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yea man, nitrous is so expensive scott. maybe that is why you didnt run an expensive nitrous kit, when you can run an inexpensive turbo kit..... shrug. i have talked to ronnie and kurt urban personally and the builder says he has well over 100,000 dollars in that cheap turbo car, not counting the cost of the car. maybe he should have gone to see Sam
yea man, nitrous is so expensive scott. maybe that is why you didnt run an expensive nitrous kit, when you can run an inexpensive turbo kit..... shrug. i have talked to ronnie and kurt urban personally and the builder says he has well over 100,000 dollars in that cheap turbo car, not counting the cost of the car. maybe he should have gone to see Sam
Tell us how you went from heads to all out race motors in this discussion ? And where I said nitrous was expensive ?
I was trying to show (like Al is) that turboed cars can go fast without high dollar heads unlike compareable n/a, s/c, and nos cars seem to need.
Comprende ? Yes / no
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ok, sure. i dont speak spanish. aint real bright over here on this side.
your childish remarks are just lame. ignored as they insuficient. all i know is you are bashing expensive heads, cam, and nitrous. ok. good tech talk. bye.
your childish remarks are just lame. ignored as they insuficient. all i know is you are bashing expensive heads, cam, and nitrous. ok. good tech talk. bye.
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Originally Posted by 1Bad00SS
What makes you think you could of keep up with me. Have you ever had that car on a dyno?
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Ronnie Duke does have some serious cash in that car. He still owes the people that put it together a TON of cash. He just plopped down a wad and said make it run 8s.
Harlans on the other hand was done mostly by himself...with help from a select few others.
And most of you know my philosophy on turbos. They are great for a max effort where you want to maximize a setup for a given cubic inches. In any V8 of decent size I would say atleast 700+ rwhp. Up until that point however...I like nitrous for the cost and simplicity of setup. And not many people will ever be exceeding that 700+ rwhp mark.
So to me...having a V8 turbo that makes 400-450-500 is kind of a waste.
If and when I go Turbo...I wouldnt even think about it unless I planned to be in excess of 900 hp. Even then...I will be near that number on nitrous with a measly 385 ci..
I could care less about the cool factor. I want to go consistanly fast. And up to 700 or so rwhp...nitrous is tough to beat. More than that...and you must consider a turbo.
Harlans on the other hand was done mostly by himself...with help from a select few others.
And most of you know my philosophy on turbos. They are great for a max effort where you want to maximize a setup for a given cubic inches. In any V8 of decent size I would say atleast 700+ rwhp. Up until that point however...I like nitrous for the cost and simplicity of setup. And not many people will ever be exceeding that 700+ rwhp mark.
So to me...having a V8 turbo that makes 400-450-500 is kind of a waste.
If and when I go Turbo...I wouldnt even think about it unless I planned to be in excess of 900 hp. Even then...I will be near that number on nitrous with a measly 385 ci..
I could care less about the cool factor. I want to go consistanly fast. And up to 700 or so rwhp...nitrous is tough to beat. More than that...and you must consider a turbo.
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Originally posted by Scott
I was trying to show (like Al is) that turboed cars can go fast without high dollar heads unlike compareable n/a, s/c, and nos cars seem to need.
I was trying to show (like Al is) that turboed cars can go fast without high dollar heads unlike compareable n/a, s/c, and nos cars seem to need.
pick your poison:
96 mph or 116 mph. go to the ford section undr "fuck" to see what i am talking about. since you like to talk about your combo so much.
logging off - Insta-gator - i like that a lot scott!
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What makes you think you could of keep up with me. Have you ever had that car on a dyno?
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And to me having 400-600 under a right foot at anytime without hoping if the bottle is empty or how many runs one might get is great. Plus no worries about the dreaded nitrous pop.
They are only good for max effort ? Why ? Put in one bar of boost and you have just about doubled your best n/a attempt with the same motor.
The turbo cars are just as consistantly fast as anything else at any stage of the game.
Nothing like a boost controller and power on demand no matter how much power you are looking for.
They are only good for max effort ? Why ? Put in one bar of boost and you have just about doubled your best n/a attempt with the same motor.
The turbo cars are just as consistantly fast as anything else at any stage of the game.
Nothing like a boost controller and power on demand no matter how much power you are looking for.
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Originally posted by gator
pick your poison:
96 mph or 116 mph. go to the ford section undr "fuck" to see what i am talking about. since you like to talk about your combo so much.
logging off - Insta-gator - i like that a lot scott!
pick your poison:
96 mph or 116 mph. go to the ford section undr "fuck" to see what i am talking about. since you like to talk about your combo so much.
logging off - Insta-gator - i like that a lot scott!
WTF does a bad converter and any of this have to do with each other ? We are talking about motors here big guy not transmissions.
Again leave it to at least one of you to try and start something.
Hopefully the moderator for this forum keeps up his consistancy of editing off topic bullshit since there only seems to be one person that can not stay on topic.
Fucking haters or is it envy ?
Now back on topic since this was going o.k. up until now.
