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Tampa Racing Observations
What happened here on Tampa Racing? It's dead? I know this has been discussed before, but it seems no one comes on here any more.
Is it facebook? Is it the demise of the "Fast & The Furious" fanboy car sub-culture? I remember back in the day this board was active and
was a great automotive resource. It's gone stale. What could be done to make it better.
-Ben
Is it facebook? Is it the demise of the "Fast & The Furious" fanboy car sub-culture? I remember back in the day this board was active and
was a great automotive resource. It's gone stale. What could be done to make it better.
-Ben
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What happened here on Tampa Racing? It's dead? I know this has been discussed before, but it seems no one comes on here any more.
Is it facebook? Is it the demise of the "Fast & The Furious" fanboy car sub-culture? I remember back in the day this board was active and
was a great automotive resource. It's gone stale. What could be done to make it better.
-Ben
Is it facebook? Is it the demise of the "Fast & The Furious" fanboy car sub-culture? I remember back in the day this board was active and
was a great automotive resource. It's gone stale. What could be done to make it better.
-Ben
We had a good 10 year run, it just died off. The owners even sold out. I would say the main force behind the drop was the TR/TF split. Once TF got going this place has steadily declined. Now there are about 10 regular posters and a few old school lurkers.
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I don't know that I would even blame TF... go over there, pretty much a ghost town. Several sections don't even show any threads anymore there has been so little activity.
From my point of veiw, there was a large group that made TR what it was. Active car people, interacting, going to meets, etc. But most of those people have "grown up" and don't have the time for TR any more.
It has been what, several years since the last "big" TR meet.
Yeah there are still some weekly meets going on and things like that, but the Local event's section used to be packed all of the time with new stuff going on. And at least once a month was a big meet.
The community as a whole has declined. TR was a community based thing. Without the community of it all, there really isn't any TR.
It used to be cool to see a TR sticker on someone's car. There was an instant level of comrade. That's pretty much gone. The small clicks that hang out together don't need TR to keep in touch, because they hang out together. Not enough is going on, on TR to bring those groups back.
Nissan tech is a great example. It used to be so busy, that the entire first page was active threads. It got to the point where you had to literally bump your tech question almost as often as your for sale post. But Nissan tech was focused mainly around the 240sx. Well, when it was really active, it was full of enthusiasts learning about the cars as they were built. There was a ton of information going back and forth, and that brought people to the site. They would end up in other sections, and general car chat, and pit road, really keeping the entire site going. Then the section got over run with the stupid drifter kids, who didn't really give a shit about the car, or anything like that, they just wanted to know the coolest way to wreck a car. It really drove the "original" group away. Quickly behind that came a really bad time of over moderation. We had already been through the time of learning about it all, and so much information is available on the internet, so instead of letting people post basic questions, they were told to search for the answer and their thread was locked. This drove a huge number of people away. They ended up going to the big national sites, and getting the info they were looking for, and that's where they stayed. Why come back to a local site when you get the boot as soon as you show up? This really killed the general traffic, the few remaining "OG's" got bored and moved on with life. Many of them have bought new cars and/or moved on from the car scene all together.
Mix in outside environmental factors like the economy taking a dump, and everyone being too broke for expensive toys like cars, and you're left with the punk kids, driving self made shitboxes, that they don't care enough about to even get running properly, worried more about wheel fitment instead of proper suspension set ups. After a while, there just isn't anything to really even post about any more.
Hell, the 240sx group had gotten so bad that I sold mine just so I wouldn't be associated with that group any more. When an obvious non-car person wants to talking to me about being one of "those drifters" in a very "not good" kind of way, while at the gas station, then it was time to move on.
I tend to think that this is pretty true in all of the sections.
I know the Mazda section, while it wasn't ever as popular as the Nissan section, it suffered a similar fate. I would frequent that section as a good friend of mine had an RX7. They had a core group, and as soon as that core group "grew up"/moved on/ran out of money/got bored, no one was there to replace them.
EDIT: oh, and I'm sure many of the "newer" group will blame assess like me that type out novels every time they post as one of the reasons the site fell apart. I remember several years ago, not only were the longer, more detailed posts encouraged, but I was one of the shorter posts in a tech thread.
From my point of veiw, there was a large group that made TR what it was. Active car people, interacting, going to meets, etc. But most of those people have "grown up" and don't have the time for TR any more.
It has been what, several years since the last "big" TR meet.
Yeah there are still some weekly meets going on and things like that, but the Local event's section used to be packed all of the time with new stuff going on. And at least once a month was a big meet.
The community as a whole has declined. TR was a community based thing. Without the community of it all, there really isn't any TR.
It used to be cool to see a TR sticker on someone's car. There was an instant level of comrade. That's pretty much gone. The small clicks that hang out together don't need TR to keep in touch, because they hang out together. Not enough is going on, on TR to bring those groups back.
Nissan tech is a great example. It used to be so busy, that the entire first page was active threads. It got to the point where you had to literally bump your tech question almost as often as your for sale post. But Nissan tech was focused mainly around the 240sx. Well, when it was really active, it was full of enthusiasts learning about the cars as they were built. There was a ton of information going back and forth, and that brought people to the site. They would end up in other sections, and general car chat, and pit road, really keeping the entire site going. Then the section got over run with the stupid drifter kids, who didn't really give a shit about the car, or anything like that, they just wanted to know the coolest way to wreck a car. It really drove the "original" group away. Quickly behind that came a really bad time of over moderation. We had already been through the time of learning about it all, and so much information is available on the internet, so instead of letting people post basic questions, they were told to search for the answer and their thread was locked. This drove a huge number of people away. They ended up going to the big national sites, and getting the info they were looking for, and that's where they stayed. Why come back to a local site when you get the boot as soon as you show up? This really killed the general traffic, the few remaining "OG's" got bored and moved on with life. Many of them have bought new cars and/or moved on from the car scene all together.
Mix in outside environmental factors like the economy taking a dump, and everyone being too broke for expensive toys like cars, and you're left with the punk kids, driving self made shitboxes, that they don't care enough about to even get running properly, worried more about wheel fitment instead of proper suspension set ups. After a while, there just isn't anything to really even post about any more.
Hell, the 240sx group had gotten so bad that I sold mine just so I wouldn't be associated with that group any more. When an obvious non-car person wants to talking to me about being one of "those drifters" in a very "not good" kind of way, while at the gas station, then it was time to move on.
I tend to think that this is pretty true in all of the sections.
I know the Mazda section, while it wasn't ever as popular as the Nissan section, it suffered a similar fate. I would frequent that section as a good friend of mine had an RX7. They had a core group, and as soon as that core group "grew up"/moved on/ran out of money/got bored, no one was there to replace them.
EDIT: oh, and I'm sure many of the "newer" group will blame assess like me that type out novels every time they post as one of the reasons the site fell apart. I remember several years ago, not only were the longer, more detailed posts encouraged, but I was one of the shorter posts in a tech thread.
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I tend to think that this is pretty true in all of the sections.
I know the Mazda section, while it wasn't ever as popular as the Nissan section, it suffered a similar fate. I would frequent that section as a good friend of mine had an RX7. They had a core group, and as soon as that core group "grew up"/moved on/ran out of money/got bored, no one was there to replace them.
EDIT: oh, and I'm sure many of the "newer" group will blame assess like me that type out novels every time they post as one of the reasons the site fell apart. I remember several years ago, not only were the longer, more detailed posts encouraged, but I was one of the shorter posts in a tech thread.
Mazda Tech was a very active section. It wasn't a heavy traffic section, but it was busy. Lots of members even though they sold their RX-7's/Mazdas still stayed around to help including me. What killed that section was a lack of care for the section. Several of the old members including myself pushed to expand Mazda Tech. We wanted to bring information to the section. How to section, DIY section, builds section. Several old members came back to help with a new and revised section, but the newer members of Mazda tech didn't want it even though the old members outweighed the new ones 2 to 1. Also when I asked to be the MOD of that section SCNAT gave it to a rookie who ended up leaving after a few months. I even asked again to be the mod again and gave a very nice proposal on how to revise Mazda Tech and salvage it. That has been close to a year now since I've asked. Mazda Tech is basically completely dead and with no mod the past year IIRC. I blame the Mods/Admin/owner ship or who ever.
Edit: Plus everyone's answer now is " Just google it" or " Let me help you with that " with a link to google that shows you how to post on google. No1 wants to respond to legit questions. What's the point in having a Vehicle forum if you can just google everything???
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I am a new member and I like to see post like this its true its dead but a lot of good info from the past.
I joined a forum the other day and quit that same night to much nagging and complaining and kindercare
kinda stuff. I come to this forum to learn ask questions not to be nagged because of a question i may have that is noob because I am new to the seen.
I joined a forum the other day and quit that same night to much nagging and complaining and kindercare
kinda stuff. I come to this forum to learn ask questions not to be nagged because of a question i may have that is noob because I am new to the seen.
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I totally feel you on your points Cordite. Same kind of crap in the Nissan tech section.
The drifter section has better stickies for 240s than the nissan section does for crying out loud.
The 240sx "bible" is in the drifter section. WTF?
The whole forum is based off of the Tech sections, and sections like Pit Road were supposed to be bonus areas, but over the last while, pit road became the focus and everything else was just left to fall apart as it will.
I understand the top dogs had their own lives to handle but at the same time, it really falls to the ones at the top when things fall apart. There was an entire hierarchy in place for that reason. The tech section mods should have been more concerned with keeping the sections active and relevant instead of locking threads because the answer could be found on google. Even now that the general traffic is less, having well laid out stickies and loads of information would keep the tech sections relevant. It would even help bring people in because those stickies should be coming up on google.
it is unfortunate that the users tried to do things, much like like what you were saying in Mazda tech, to really save the site, but were held up by higher ups of the site.
Now, the site is owned by a "faceless internet giant" and there is serious doubt that it will ever be able to cast a shadow in comparison to the glory days of TR.
Which sucks.
I miss the active forums, and the meets and all of that.
The drifter section has better stickies for 240s than the nissan section does for crying out loud.
The 240sx "bible" is in the drifter section. WTF?
The whole forum is based off of the Tech sections, and sections like Pit Road were supposed to be bonus areas, but over the last while, pit road became the focus and everything else was just left to fall apart as it will.
I understand the top dogs had their own lives to handle but at the same time, it really falls to the ones at the top when things fall apart. There was an entire hierarchy in place for that reason. The tech section mods should have been more concerned with keeping the sections active and relevant instead of locking threads because the answer could be found on google. Even now that the general traffic is less, having well laid out stickies and loads of information would keep the tech sections relevant. It would even help bring people in because those stickies should be coming up on google.
it is unfortunate that the users tried to do things, much like like what you were saying in Mazda tech, to really save the site, but were held up by higher ups of the site.
Now, the site is owned by a "faceless internet giant" and there is serious doubt that it will ever be able to cast a shadow in comparison to the glory days of TR.
Which sucks.
I miss the active forums, and the meets and all of that.
