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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Too late for first ticket but dont make the same mistake. get this
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Have the defendant state that he wasn't driving at the time of the incident. He's innocent until proven guilty right? Have the plaintiff prove (which they can't) that it was in fact him. He's not responsible to provide information on who may have been driving, he can say that several people have access to his keys/car and he doesn't keep a record of everyone that drives it and when.
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by k7-600
Have the defendant state that he wasn't driving at the time of the incident. He's innocent until proven guilty right? Have the plaintiff prove (which they can't) that it was in fact him. He's not responsible to provide information on who may have been driving, he can say that several people have access to his keys/car and he doesn't keep a record of everyone that drives it and when.
doesnt matter, registered owner is responsible for their vehicle and those in it or operating it....its why you shouldnt let someone drive your car you can take it to court but a picture speaks a thousand words and you wont win.....
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by neondriver
doesnt matter, registered owner is responsible for their vehicle and those in it or operating it....its why you shouldnt let someone drive your car you can take it to court but a picture speaks a thousand words and you wont win.....

So what you're saying is that I can borrow my soon to be ex girlfriends car and go rack up some red light tickets and she'll be fucked. right? The owner of the vehicle is not responsible, the driver is. Which is exactly why I had to pay for a ticket when one of the tail lights were out on my moms truck. And it's also the reason I wasn't charged when my vehicle was involved in a felony.

They don't take pictures of the driver, they take a short video of the intersection so there's proof that the light turned red before the vehicle passes the line. They also take a picture of the license plate, in order to identify the vehicle. Also, the OP's fiance's dad would have this evidence provided to him along with the ticket, and wouldn't be asking for help if he knew they had irrefutable evidence.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by k7-600
So what you're saying is that I can borrow my soon to be ex girlfriends car and go rack up some red light tickets and she'll be fucked. right? The owner of the vehicle is not responsible, the driver is. Which is exactly why I had to pay for a ticket when one of the tail lights were out on my moms truck. And it's also the reason I wasn't charged when my vehicle was involved in a felony.

They don't take pictures of the driver, they take a short video of the intersection so there's proof that the light turned red before the vehicle passes the line. They also take a picture of the license plate, in order to identify the vehicle. Also, the OP's fiance's dad would have this evidence provided to him along with the ticket, and wouldn't be asking for help if he knew they had irrefutable evidence.
No, you're wrong again. The difference between the camera and getting pulled over for a tail light ticket is that it's a cop and YOU were driving when you got pulled over in PERSON. On Cameras it's the responsibility of the owner. So yes, you could borrow your ex's car and rack up some tickets and totally fuck her.

Some kids did this up north to a principle or something like that at their school. They rented the same style Ford Taurus and made a "plate" that was the exact same as the principle's and drove through a bunch of speed and light cameras.
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Old Feb 24, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by k7-600
So what you're saying is that I can borrow my soon to be ex girlfriends car and go rack up some red light tickets and she'll be fucked. right? The owner of the vehicle is not responsible, the driver is. Which is exactly why I had to pay for a ticket when one of the tail lights were out on my moms truck. And it's also the reason I wasn't charged when my vehicle was involved in a felony.

They don't take pictures of the driver, they take a short video of the intersection so there's proof that the light turned red before the vehicle passes the line. They also take a picture of the license plate, in order to identify the vehicle. Also, the OP's fiance's dad would have this evidence provided to him along with the ticket, and wouldn't be asking for help if he knew they had irrefutable evidence.
i work with this a bit lately.. owner IS responsible, its only a fine and no points so its up to the owner to take care of whoever was driving their car. if you take your ex girlfriends car its her ticket..however be careful if she wants to get back at you and reports its stolen you will be responsable and plus way more lol.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 02:08 AM
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Depending on the timing of the light....
There is a point on this side of the intersection where if you are driving slowly and safely
you will not be able to stop before you reach the line, and will not be able to speed up in time
to clear the intersection before the light turns red. So your car gets photo'ed in the intersection
with a red light. I can prove this. I suspect the timing of a lot of lights are set incorrectly.

If your attorney doesn't understand this, have him contact me
before he blunders and adds one more test case for the other side.
Your attorney is a lawyer and probably doesn't know how to do a traffic study.-Bob
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