Red Light Cameras
A total of 9,951 vehicles were involved in fatal crashes at traffic signals in 1999 and 2000 – 20% of these vehicles failed to obey the signal and 13% failed to yield the right-of-way. On the other hand, 13,627 vehicles were involved in fatal crashes at stop signs - 21% failed to obey the sign and 23% failed to yield the right-of-way.
Comes to about 1000 red light running fatalities a year. Previously I found stats that supported the fact that running red lights was the second leading cause of traffic fatalities. Can't find those stats now, regardless running red lights and stop signs are a problem and deserve a great deal more attention than street racing.
That said I still don't support government cameras looking in on our every move. I'd rather hide a few cops at the intersection and raise the fine to $500.
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I thought there were sensors under the white line to let the light know there is a car there. I usually go over it to make sure that the light changes for me rather then sitting there for 5 minutes.
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So is 1,000 out of 45,000 deaths, a significant number?
1/45 is about 2 per cent.
If the number one cause of crashes and death in Florida is careless driving, I wish to point out that it requires manpower and judgement
to detect a careless driver.
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I wish to point out that a radar gun can just be pointed down the road and detect a speeder, so it's easier to do than detect a careless driver.
I wish to point out that a camera taking pictures at an intersection
can detect a red light runner, so it's easier to do than detect a careless driver.
Am I the only person who can see devices creating a mass production of revenue with less labor costs involved?.....and also the production of revenue without a significant effect on traffic deaths?-Bob
1/45 is about 2 per cent.
If the number one cause of crashes and death in Florida is careless driving, I wish to point out that it requires manpower and judgement
to detect a careless driver.
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I wish to point out that a radar gun can just be pointed down the road and detect a speeder, so it's easier to do than detect a careless driver.
I wish to point out that a camera taking pictures at an intersection
can detect a red light runner, so it's easier to do than detect a careless driver.
Am I the only person who can see devices creating a mass production of revenue with less labor costs involved?.....and also the production of revenue without a significant effect on traffic deaths?-Bob
Crash and Casualty Statistics for the USA
Comes to about 1000 red light running fatalities a year. Previously I found stats that supported the fact that running red lights was the second leading cause of traffic fatalities. Can't find those stats now, regardless running red lights and stop signs are a problem and deserve a great deal more attention than street racing.
That said I still don't support government cameras looking in on our every move. I'd rather hide a few cops at the intersection and raise the fine to $500.
Comes to about 1000 red light running fatalities a year. Previously I found stats that supported the fact that running red lights was the second leading cause of traffic fatalities. Can't find those stats now, regardless running red lights and stop signs are a problem and deserve a great deal more attention than street racing.
That said I still don't support government cameras looking in on our every move. I'd rather hide a few cops at the intersection and raise the fine to $500.
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Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
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Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
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In the 60's motorcyclists were not required to wear a helmet......UNTIL
the Federal Govt gave money to the states to enforce the wearing of helmets.....or witheld highway money from the states that did not create and enforce a helmet law.
In the 80's, the Fed Govt stopped paying money for helmet enforcement.
Insurance company lobbys, not to miss a good thing, got the law changed in Florida to where purchasing a certain type insurance (expanding their customer base) would exempt you from wearing a helmet.
That's when the law changed. Was it a fundraiser from the Federal Govt
or was there a safety reason that existed on one day, but did not exist one day later?
Periodically the Fed Govt gives states a fundraiser, and if taken to court on this, I could supply the evidence.-Bob
the Federal Govt gave money to the states to enforce the wearing of helmets.....or witheld highway money from the states that did not create and enforce a helmet law.
In the 80's, the Fed Govt stopped paying money for helmet enforcement.
Insurance company lobbys, not to miss a good thing, got the law changed in Florida to where purchasing a certain type insurance (expanding their customer base) would exempt you from wearing a helmet.
That's when the law changed. Was it a fundraiser from the Federal Govt
or was there a safety reason that existed on one day, but did not exist one day later?
Periodically the Fed Govt gives states a fundraiser, and if taken to court on this, I could supply the evidence.-Bob
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Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
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Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
All Cars Every 2nd Saturday Free Breakfast: Since 2015 and more. click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...ast-tampa.html
Tampa Racing.com covers the Tampa car scene and supports many fund raisers, worthy causes and events that enrich our community. We hope you enjoy them all.
What do I do? ---- on-site *Aftermarket* spring/suspension installations --- on-site impact wrenching---street lowering with your own stock springs...........True Bi-xenon HID projector headlight conversions........ Much more at Bob's Garage!
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...ontact-us.html
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Here is the listings of ALL New Mexico Car Events Including Route 66 Anniversary
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...ar-events.html
Top Car Club Meetings? Click a city
Got a video? Email it to Bobfixesitup@yahoo.com
________________________________________________
Keystone Motor Club (Founded 2012)... Free car show Every 3rd Saturday, newsletter is
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...-car-club.html
Keystone picture gallery is here:
https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93202
Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent...eventid=102331
Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
All Cars Every 2nd Saturday Free Breakfast: Since 2015 and more. click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...ast-tampa.html
Tampa Racing.com covers the Tampa car scene and supports many fund raisers, worthy causes and events that enrich our community. We hope you enjoy them all.
What do I do? ---- on-site *Aftermarket* spring/suspension installations --- on-site impact wrenching---street lowering with your own stock springs...........True Bi-xenon HID projector headlight conversions........ Much more at Bob's Garage!
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They'll send it, "Pay it or we're fining you, and don't give a flying fuck if you received it or not." And somehow everyone else is letting this shit pass. People should be camped out around them with 22s popping the fucking cameras to pieces, or storming the local government buildings demanding their removal. But nope, nothing. Nothing but compliance; how the fuck is anyone suppossed to demand that our government work for us and not against us if everybody is so fucking unconditionally compliant.
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Crash and Casualty Statistics for the USA
Comes to about 1000 red light running fatalities a year. Previously I found stats that supported the fact that running red lights was the second leading cause of traffic fatalities. Can't find those stats now, regardless running red lights and stop signs are a problem and deserve a great deal more attention than street racing.
That said I still don't support government cameras looking in on our every move. I'd rather hide a few cops at the intersection and raise the fine to $500.
Comes to about 1000 red light running fatalities a year. Previously I found stats that supported the fact that running red lights was the second leading cause of traffic fatalities. Can't find those stats now, regardless running red lights and stop signs are a problem and deserve a great deal more attention than street racing.
That said I still don't support government cameras looking in on our every move. I'd rather hide a few cops at the intersection and raise the fine to $500.
I think I got one last night turning right with a green fucking light. Can't wait to get my warning in the mail.
I'm sure people are going to crash from those bright ass flash's in the dark. Shit's retarded
I'm sure people are going to crash from those bright ass flash's in the dark. Shit's retarded
That said, I do believe 2% is a number worth examining. You wouldn't get on a plane if 2% of them crashed killing everyone on board. In news today a crib manufacturer recalled 2.1 million cribs because four babies suffocated in them. 2.1M:4 I'm not gonna bother with the math on that but the percentage is a lot less significant that 2%.
We have all seen red light runners and they have pissed every one of us off, even though we may have used similar poor judgement ourselves. But the cameras are a horrible idea. I would much rather see fines of $500 and cops on the corners.
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