Which one...5th gen Prelude or new Eclipse??
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I would buy to eclipse and get a good exhaust system intake and a 100 direct port nitrous kit. A good driver with this setup should be able to run 13s and it will remain reliable.
I kinda like the car it has alot of tourqe and potention. Mitsubishi put that engine in it because it is alot more reliable. Not that the 4g63 isnt reliable but it seems that alot of punk ricers get them and fuck them up.
I kinda like the car it has alot of tourqe and potention. Mitsubishi put that engine in it because it is alot more reliable. Not that the 4g63 isnt reliable but it seems that alot of punk ricers get them and fuck them up.
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Originally posted by Chismoe
Dang it hit Clear Fields by accident.
Short this time:
1) H22A is the Honda motor that DOES have torque
2) V6 Eclipses SUCK
3) Buy a 2g Eclipse Turbo if you want an Eclipse
4) If not buying 2g Eclipse Turbo KEEP Prelude
5) Put a Revhard Turbo kit on your Prelude
Good luck.
Originally posted by Chismoe
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Originally posted by michaelnchelle
Dude as it has been said here many times before... get what you like. You are the one who has to drive it every day. Things to consider: the Eclipse looks really cool but its large and heavy compared to any Honda out there. However it has a large V-6 with lots of torque unlike pretty much any Honda/Acura made. (just kidding guys take it easy!) So my guess is that you could still do a lot with this car to make it as fast as you want it. This engine screams for a turbo or twin turbo setup but I have no idea if anyone makes one for it. For mod options the Honda probably wins just because theres so much shit out there.
We looked at these cars but bought the Celica instead but its my fiances car so we were shopping more looks/price/ reliability than performance so it may not be a fair comparison. I was impressed with the quality compared to older Mitsus but it still wasnt up to Honda/Acura or Toyota standards. And I dont know about long term reliabilty... my guess is older Mitsus were not so great but the new ones without the high-strung turbos will be better.
Dude as it has been said here many times before... get what you like. You are the one who has to drive it every day. Things to consider: the Eclipse looks really cool but its large and heavy compared to any Honda out there. However it has a large V-6 with lots of torque unlike pretty much any Honda/Acura made. (just kidding guys take it easy!) So my guess is that you could still do a lot with this car to make it as fast as you want it. This engine screams for a turbo or twin turbo setup but I have no idea if anyone makes one for it. For mod options the Honda probably wins just because theres so much shit out there.
We looked at these cars but bought the Celica instead but its my fiances car so we were shopping more looks/price/ reliability than performance so it may not be a fair comparison. I was impressed with the quality compared to older Mitsus but it still wasnt up to Honda/Acura or Toyota standards. And I dont know about long term reliabilty... my guess is older Mitsus were not so great but the new ones without the high-strung turbos will be better.
Short this time:
1) H22A is the Honda motor that DOES have torque
2) V6 Eclipses SUCK
3) Buy a 2g Eclipse Turbo if you want an Eclipse
4) If not buying 2g Eclipse Turbo KEEP Prelude
5) Put a Revhard Turbo kit on your Prelude
Good luck.
Oh I am DYING to know... how much torque does the H22A have??? And I am talking about unmodified non-turbo and non-supercharged.
And is it possible for someone to consider buying a non-Honda product without the generic everything but Hondas suck posts? I mean I like Hondas too they are great and obviously very popular for a reason but I am also one of those people that hates to see the same car as mine all over the place and I can also appreciate the good points of other cars besides the one I drive. its cool if you want to push your choice but have something to back it up besides it sucks!
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You read WAY too much into that post.
H22A has around 150lbs of torque which isnt gobs but is by far much better than its other 4 cyls. PS I wouldnt state that a motor has torque AFTER modification...
And yes it is possible for someone to buy anything other than a Honda. I actually think Nissan is worlds better than Honda...we just dont get their good engines in a production car over here. But the topic was about buying a new Eclipse or a HONDA. So if I didnt like the new Eclipse guess what...yep I would suggest the HONDA...amazing isnt it.
Reasons to back up
*Honda has a HUGE aftermarket 3g Eclips has some but not near as much
*The Prelude is a much better built car all around body integrity engine research reliability etc.
*Honda motors are proven to take abuse and keep going Ive known alot of people having trouble with the new Eclipse/Galant and that motor
*Preludes are faster stock for stock
*Again there is way more availability and options for building the Honda motor.
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Do a search for it but its something close to www.revhard.com . That might be it but I cant remember. Its not hard to find though. They are a little more expensive but when you read the quality parts used you wont mind spending a little more for a kit that will make a LOT more HP. And I would get rid of your Auto for a 5-speed.
A GSR with a Revhard kit would rock also.
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I wasnt trying to be a dick or anything didnt mean for it to sound that way. I agree with you on all your points to be honest I would get the Honda too unless I was planning on leaving the Eclipse stock. Its just that sometimes these posts start to get old with the anything-but-Honda bashing so I try to support anyone who wants to be different and get something else. Cant we all just get along???? LOL... Peace!
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the new eclipses have loads of problems...the Midsouth DSM club here has had plenty of experience with them and if any of the members still have their 3rd gen eclipses it's cause they gave it to their son/daughter for graduation or end up selling it after a few months
