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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fastforward
.I like it. Pretty cool. The styling is sharp. But I'd like to see a return to roots. Why does EVERYTHING have to be managed by a computer on this car? I mean, the computer systems are there to compensate for suspension systems and a drive-train that can't operate effectively without it. Right? To me its a handicap if it "needs" these computer controlled devices just to perform. I'm not talking about engine management so much as I am talking about traction and suspension systems.

Same with cars, if it needs to have brains controlling everything, than its sort of lame.
thats my 2 cents.

Okay I'm babbling now, sorry.
Its just how things are now why do it with molds and stuff when you can just use the computer aka the root of all evil. I guess the all electrons is to keep up with the change in technology and whats going to sell for the new ages coming upon us. Ford sync technology is preety hardcore stuff and idk whos going to be the next to compete with that but i think were just losing what we all began with cars. Pure power and just getting from Point A to Point B. Henry Ford and Leonardo da vinci didnt know what they were going to create in the years to come
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Oh god.

Another fucking skyrine thread?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fastforward
.I like it. Pretty cool. The styling is sharp. But I'd like to see a return to roots. Why does EVERYTHING have to be managed by a computer on this car? I mean, the computer systems are there to compensate for suspension systems and a drive-train that can't operate effectively without it. Right? To me its a handicap if it "needs" these computer controlled devices just to perform. I'm not talking about engine management so much as I am talking about traction and suspension systems.

Like the F-117 stealth fighter, without computers to manage its flight systems the thing can't fly at all! I'll take a WWII P-51 Mustang over a stealth fighter any day, The P-51's shear mechanical design principals are what makes it so much more amazing to me, far more amazing than a modern state of the art, but computer dependent F-117.

Same with cars, if it needs to have brains controlling everything, than its sort of lame.
thats my 2 cents.

Okay I'm babbling now, sorry.
Interesting choice on choosing the F117, the AF knows it was a hunk of junk, hence the retirement while it was still young.

But I think it's kinda hard to compare cars equiped to the "T" with electronics/cars that are actually controlled via the driver with the aircraft of yesteryear/today because the two are entirely different animals. Pit a P51 against an F15/16/22 (all inferior due to their dependance on electronics based on your argument) and see who wins
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Old May 26, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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id love to see an f16 pitted against a p51 mustang. It may be a more genuine flyer's plane, but lets be real, it would get shot down in like point two seconds...lol...
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Old May 26, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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KPGC10 > r32 gts-t 4 door > r33 gts-t 4 door > r32 gtr > r34 gtr > r33 gtr > Ken & Mary > r34 gt-t 4 door
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Old May 26, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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I like the r32/r33 way more than the r34.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Anterrabae
Interesting choice on choosing the F117, the AF knows it was a hunk of junk, hence the retirement while it was still young.

But I think it's kinda hard to compare cars equiped to the "T" with electronics/cars that are actually controlled via the driver with the aircraft of yesteryear/today because the two are entirely different animals. Pit a P51 against an F15/16/22 (all inferior due to their dependance on electronics based on your argument) and see who wins
i think that would depend on the fight...in limited airspace(in canyons and down low)the old 51 would probably do better than you might think.keep in mind too that the 51 could fly off of grass runways with minimal maintenance.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by redcoats1976
i think that would depend on the fight...in limited airspace(in canyons and down low)the old 51 would probably do better than you might think.keep in mind too that the 51 could fly off of grass runways with minimal maintenance.
(Im not even going to include aircraft with the ability to thrust vector... thats too easy. For this, im going to use the F15E...you know, the aircraft that can go almost vertical moments after take off as seen here )

What are you basing this off of? while the 51 could hold its own for a pass or two, the 1500hp RR motor is nothing compared to 28,000 lbs/thrust and an air brake that could have the 15 going in any other direction in a hurry. Ive had the honor of seeing the 51 in a low level flight doing maneuvers, but i fail to see anything that could give it a step up on todays aircraft.

i dont see how the amount of maintenance/take off origin makes any difference in a dog fight? once the aircraft is in the air the "spinning" stops and, well, we all know what else stops when that happens
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Old May 26, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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imo the previous skylines just looked like big grocery getters. the new thing looks like they were (and they are) trying to compete in the supercar standings.

just my .02
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Old May 26, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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i prefer the older versions
this looks like a veyron and r34 had brother sister style sex and this is the demon child.
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