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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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The car looks a LOT better once it's lowered a bit. It's actually not that bad looking once lowered.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BeQuietAndDrive
You might want to tell that to Chevy and RealTime RL. For some reason, they think their front drivers can beat out AWD and RWD cars.

Oh, wait, they can.
people reference racecars alot, but they are nowhere near what you would have on your street car, i love the realtime acuras, and they do amazing work, but on the whole, FWD sucks...happy?
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BeQuietAndDrive
The car looks a LOT better once it's lowered a bit. It's actually not that bad looking once lowered.
did you get a glance @ one?! it was prob mine....I have blk emblems
here is a few pics

http://www.redlineforums.com/gallery...rk.php?file=88

here is my brothers car

http://www.redlineforums.com/gallery...ile=300&size=1

Here is My family

http://www.redlineforums.com/gallery...rk.php?file=86

My moms new one replaced the Orange(SKY)

http://www.redlineforums.com/gallery...le=1362&size=1

Please note
(Click and save to view its running kinda slow)

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BeQuietAndDrive
You might want to tell that to Chevy and RealTime RL. For some reason, they think their front drivers can beat out AWD and RWD cars.

Oh, wait, they can.
I googled realtime rl and got nothing, maybe you can elaborate what it is as well as tell me which RWD and AWD cars they beat.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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RealTime

1. Acura 59
2.Mazda 45
3. Audi 31
4. BMW 11
Torrance, Calif. 11/11/2005 -- Powered by Acura, the RealTime Racing team clocked its competition in the SCCA's Speed World Challenge Touring Car category.
Peter Cunningham captured the title with consistency as his one victory was complemented by six other podium results and he never finished outside the Top 10 in 11 starts. Teammate Pierre Kleinubing earned a season-best three wins to take third in the standings, while Brandon Davis copped top rookie honors and finished fourth in the points.
Eric Curran, with one win, wound up fifth in the standings as RealTime's drivers claimed 15 of the possible 33 podium spots over the course of the 11-race season.
Acura whipped Mazda and BMW for its fifth manufacturers' title and it was the ninth crown for the RealTime team in it's 13 years in the series.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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And SWRT has won numerous rallys, how does a touring car team prove fwd doesnt suck for a daily driver?

Back on topic, I see the ion redline as another SRT-4. Originally a economy car, changed into a "sports sedan" at a cheap price. I dont like them but if you do, enjoy it.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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i'm with you, racecars are different, realtime is just awesome
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JonWRX
And SWRT has won numerous rallys, how does a touring car team prove fwd doesnt suck for a daily driver?

Back on topic, I see the ion redline as another SRT-4. Originally a economy car, changed into a "sports sedan" at a cheap price. I dont like them but if you do, enjoy it.
How does an FF layout car suck for a daily driver? If anything, you would not even notice much of a difference between a front drive car and an AWD car in daily driving, since you would basically never reach the cornering limit.

Also, you do realize that your WRX was essentially a economy car turned "sports sedan" for homolagtion, right?
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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for a daily it don't matter, but in performance driving it does
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Well, Jon states that it does matter for a daily driver. Even in performance driving, the negatives associated with an FF car are usually balanced out by other factors, such as low weight.

My car corners nearly neutrally, with a bit of understeer (at the 10/10's limit), and I don't even have on a beefy rear sway bar, which should take care of that problem. Other than that, it's quite balanced. I've bested several FR cars and even came pretty much dead even with a Saab 9-2x (the Saabaru thing) at the last autocross I attended. Charles is by no means a bad driver either.

Do FF cars have disadvantages? Yes; I won't argue with that. But hell, I paid $12,000 less than a WRX for my car, and it's a hoot to drive. I just hate when people automatically discount any front drive car because "OMG IT'S FF WTFBBQ".
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