whats your point mars.




j/k

 

Well we cant make out civic faster, so we may as well upgrade the brakes so we can feel the g's when we stop.

 

hmmmm.....our tech forum is pretty boring

 

right our tech forum is llike so i ah ate some food today.

 

i think for the most part, people know what there cars can and cant do (not all cases, just most). your average mustang guy knows, a mustang isnt the best car to set up for a road course, there heavy and need alot of extra stability help, hondas and w.e say road racing because they know they cant hook, nisanns want to drift because they are easily set up for it..

 

Most DSM people are drag racers primarily and many exclusively. There's little to no discussion of suspension outside one or two national forums where a few experts field questions from many people who know nothing at all, and an auto-x group that has the only detailed information on DSM suspension but that primarily focuses on the 2g cars. 1g cars aren't the greatest handling cars in the world. They're not bad, but they're far from great. 2gs are a lot better and a lot of people spend more time focusing on that aspect of modifying them. 1gs have almost no aftermarket support for suspension- you've got one shop that makes coilover sleeves that you can run with Koni Yellows (ground controls have problems in the 1G fitment) and you've got 2000 dollar JIC's from RRE. I think Tein may have come out with one fitment of one range of their coilovers entirely because some DSMer had a contact in the company and worked with them to get it developed. You've got one or two quality lowering spring sets from two different manufacturers (I've got the H&R's that only lower an inch or so to avoid messing with my suspension geometry) and then several that are crap and sag. You've got almost no choices in shocks- KYB GR-2 stock replacements like I'm running, KYB AGXs that are damped so horribly in the rear that they unsettle the back end, and Koni Yellows that are impossible to adjust in car in the rear and are inserts you have to adapt into your stock shocks up front. There are aftermarket front and rear sways, like the ST rear sway I'm running, and a few companies make front and rear stbs, including a triangulated stb that RRE makes for the front. You can weld the rear control arms to eliminate the rear active toe that creates understeer and causes the toe to go crazy on launch and take a bit of traction away- I've done this. There are no aftermarket adjustable suspension components of any kind, so lowering below an inch starts to screw the suspension geometry with no way to fix it. Since there's not much interest in 1G handing, there's just not much aftermarket support.

 

Well here's the way I feel.
I don't go to race courses, I don't drift, and hell i havent even been to a drag strip in 2 years..

I dive my cars for daily driving, and it's just as fun to mod your car and feel the power as it is to see how much faster your car can go by beating the hell out of it down the track 15 X.

as far as handling vs. raw power...

when are you really ever going to catch someoen at a stoplight and race to see who's car can outhandle whos?????

It has to do with a straight line in America!!!

 

Tein has come out with a 1g suspension for T/E/L and from what I hear about people using it, they love it to death. I'll be throwing it on my galant eventually.

 

I don't street race, period. I do all of my racing at the track. I do enjoy goosing it on the street, but I have more fun goosing it around corners. I have places I go to drive my car fast around corners for the fun of it. Right now the car has too much power for my brakes and tires. You floor it on a straight and then have to slam on the brakes at the end of the straight to bleed off 30 mph in excess speed, and take the corner slowly, then repeat. Once I get my RX-7 wheels back on the car with some good tires and do the dual-piston caliper upgrade with some good pads and stainless lines, it should be a blast to take out to the back roads to have some fun from time to time.