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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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I saw the Civic si run and it was on a stretch of road that was marked off with cones and it had the little wheel thing hooked up on the side of it.
I did not see the celica part.

cool car none the less, who cares how much they spent. With the civic all they were trying to do was create a USDM civic that compared somewhat to the JDM Civic Type R. If you would have listened to the commentary you would have heard that. King Motorsports did all their Mugen($$$) stuff to it and dropped in a JDM Type R motor. A authentic Japanese body kit is dumb expensive...
They could have easily put a turbo on the original motor and went a hell of alot faster but that wasnt the point of the build up.

I have spent enough money on my car over the last few years to have bought something faster, does that mean I SHOULD have?? NO, just means I COULD have.

If its not your money then who gives a crap what they could have done or didnt do....

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by MugenR
. King Motorsports did all their Mugen($$$) stuff to it and dropped in a JDM Type R motor.
I raced for king motorsports last year !! in the ITRs with gator ! my uncle Sponsored last year With UNITY365 Corp. gay ass Blue and pink teggys !! Gator races Hooters Cup now and I no longer run because my uncle passed this year no sponsor no fun !! lol King Motorsports kicks ass !!! awesome engine builders !!!
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by Spyderxl98z24
I raced for king motorsports last year !! in the ITRs with gator ! my uncle Sponsored last year With UNITY365 Corp. gay ass Blue and pink teggys !! Gator races Hooters Cup now and I no longer run because my uncle passed this year no sponsor no fun !! lol King Motorsports kicks ass !!! awesome engine builders !!!
Sorry typo he just bicthsmackedme he runs in Trans-Am now !
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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lol hahahah grand-am lol im pissing him off ! good times !!
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Spyderxl98z24
98-00 Z28 opr SS for 20ishk and have 30k tp put me in teh 8's ! 13's lol thas ford for you !
I guess you couldn't see the sarcasm ... the cobra's start in the 12s .. takes about 2 grand to get them to do low 11s though.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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I heard about that Celica, too, in another forum and i also heard that most of the money didn't go to engine modifications....mostly on interior decorations and suspension
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by 03SilXR
I heard about that Celica, too, in another forum and i also heard that most of the money didn't go to engine modifications....mostly on interior decorations and suspension
I believe that !! lol damn ricers !
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Spyderxl98z24
lmao funniest shit i ever heard ! What do you think a Turbo is !

So your saying a Vortech Centrifugal SC on a integra that makes 298 hp and 198ftlbs has no place on a track ? I could put that car in themid 12's with supporting mods and only spend about 6k ! on everything ! You also have to remember the TEST DRIVERS might not be able to drive these types of cars !
ok we aren't going to start on your dedication to all forced induction items being called superchargers, i think that was covered in h/a forum.
no since the centrifugal blower has a direct relation to the crank speed and since the avg 4 cylinder makes no torque of note below 4k, centrifugal blowers have no place on 4 cylinders. as they accelerate the numbers improve esp after you gain enough compressor speed to overcome the parasitic loss of the blower. centrifugals are great on stroker motors that do have low end tq, but lack power in the top end due to incredible piston speed and dwell time... most popular form of supercharging trucks.

a turbo (or as you like to call it... turbine powered supercharger) has a compressor wheel speed relative to the exhaust flow, and can be varied as far as additional manifold pressure by use of a waste gate, essentially aiding in keeping the unit into a better efficiency range.

and don't give me that crap about the drivers not being worth a rats ass, if the car is so great then the numbers wouldn't be off by that much... from multiple sources.

4 clyinders work better with positive displ blowers, which have a greater effect on the low and midrange, but do start to suffer at high speeds.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by RONIN
ok we aren't going to start on your dedication to all forced induction items being called superchargers, i think that was covered in h/a forum.
no since the centrifugal blower has a direct relation to the crank speed and since the avg 4 cylinder makes no torque of note below 4k, centrifugal blowers have no place on 4 cylinders. as they accelerate the numbers improve esp after you gain enough compressor speed to overcome the parasitic loss of the blower. centrifugals are great on stroker motors that do have low end tq, but lack power in the top end due to incredible piston speed and dwell time... most popular form of supercharging trucks.

a turbo (or as you like to call it... turbine powered supercharger) has a compressor wheel speed relative to the exhaust flow, and can be varied as far as additional manifold pressure by use of a waste gate, essentially aiding in keeping the unit into a better efficiency range.

and don't give me that crap about the drivers not being worth a rats ass, if the car is so great then the numbers wouldn't be off by that much... from multiple sources.

4 clyinders work better with positive displ blowers, which have a greater effect on the low and midrange, but do start to suffer at high speeds.
the numbers i posted are awesome numbers for low boost 200 ftlbs or trq is good or the track i a light car and no its not relative to the rotationof the crank it has a free floating bearing design like a Bicyccle that you can peddalbackwards. Hice why they have bov's the speed doesnt slow down as the engine does but only spins as fast as the crank does proportionatly to the pulley size so 8k rpm could be doubled or tripled to 1800rpm or 27000 rpm most trurbso rusn at 15000 rpm so yes a centrifugal blower does have a place onm 4cyls the only sif differencein the two is the type of drive system the belt style just takjes awa y from the power of the engine overall as teh turbine uses wasted power. so here again its the same thing !
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