Jesus was painted by many as a drunken raving schizophrenic.


And yeah, +1 on the "you want a 4.6" comment. 5.0s are junk anyhow.

 

You forget, he was on opium most of the time too. Oh, and hashish too.

 

Not directly questioning your knowledge,.. (I know you know more than me (especially with the EFI cars) and I respect that) just that I've had a 95 5.0 k-member laying on the floor next to a 98 V6 k-member and they looked identical to me. Motor mount holes were identical. The 98 car was a V6 and got a 5.0 transplant from the 95 car. We werent sure we would need the 95 k-member or not so it was pulled just in case. Turned out we didnt need it. Then at the last minute he decided to buy a tubular k-member.

Just curious what the differences are between say a 94/95 V6/5.0 k-member vs a 96 - 04 V6 k-member? Not including the 4.6 k-members.

And back to the OP.

The easiest (IMO) V8 transplant (And cheapest,..IMO) would be a carb'd 302 with a manual transmission. Would be a simple bolt in. Use a 94/95 gauge cluster and your golden. Your stock V6 cluster will not work correctly (speedo in particular) with a transmission not suited to your model year. Digital odometer etc.

Now I am not sure how say a 4R70W behind a carb'd 302 would function if at all. I dont know how much information the ECM needs from the engine to allow it to function correctly. But a simple $500 GT40 junkyard motor and T5 combo with a 95 cluster would be a simple bolt in and (for the most part) work. Add an 85 dizzy, 600/650cfm carb, carb fuel pump, carb intake, 85 fox throttle cable and the engine would be set.

The ideal transplant would be a 4.6,.. but will require a later model 4.6. Will require a new ECM, the correct engine harness, tranny harness and dash harness for the engine harness to mate with the ECM. Ford used different pin outs on the blocks even within the same year. 96 GT and 96 Cobra use different pin outs on the block for different functions. If you swapped say a 96 Cobra motor with a factory 4v engine harness and plug it into a 96 GT ECM harness you wont even be able to turn over the engine with the key. The pin outs are different. You would need to use the GT harness on the engine or get the rest of the Cobra harness to complete the swap. If doing a 4.6 to a V6 car the same crap will be needed to complete the swap. Not difficult to do. Somewhat of a PITA,.. but is the correct way if doing a 4.6. Also,.. with the 4.6 the not sure if the V6 cars got PATS,.. I'm sure they did,.. but it would need to be disabled or modified for the 4.6 to work. 4.6 swap will probably cost almost twice what a carb'd 302 swap will cost when all is said and done.

Now if you decided to do a carb'd 4.6 setup and used a T45. That would be a cheap 4.6 swap with a lot less headaches trying to sort out wiring issues. Instead of an expensive 4.6 dizzy,.. you just buy the MSD MOD6 ignition box. Plug it into the factory connectors. Bolt on a Vic jr intake. 600/650cfm carb. 85 Fox throttle cable and again,.. your golden.

Something else I'd like to address,.. for anyone thats done long tubes in an SN95 car with a 4.6 (particularly with long tubes).. and then went to work on a 5.0 car with long tubes,.. you learn to appreciate how much more room the 302 gives you to work on it vs a 4.6. I have nothing against the 4.6. I had a ton of fun with them. The blocks are virtually bullet proof. But they are expensive to upgrade and modify vs a 5.0. And if keeping the engine with a stock rotating assembly,.. you are limited to roughly 430hp before the engine starts rejecting rods and making holes in the block. Where with a 5.0 the stock rotating assembly will (usually) out live the block.

Hurst

 

So Hurst, when is your book being published?

 

I just got out of my CIS 500 Advanced SQL programming class. I forgot my homework and re-wrote a 14 page summary from memory in college APA style and had it finished and printed out in 7 mins before the professor walked in to start class.

You guys dont type on a regular basis like I do. Its second nature for me. I can type as fast or faster then most of you can talk. Even for me I have to go back and proof read what I typed because many times I'll blurt out and type what I was thinking while coming up with an answer and sometimes it has nothing to do with the topic or subject we are talking about at all. I just type as I am thinking.

Hurst

 

I forgot you were into programming! I remember those days. I got pretty big into C++, Perl, and a few other languages a few years back. I could script fluently in multiple languages before I even hit the 6th grade. Those days are way gone though. Somewhere between 8th and 9th grade, I caught a severe case of the lazies, and it hasn't left since...

 

the 96up v6 engine used a relocation plate in it's motor mount alowing it to be used on the new k-member. yes they mount looks similar but is in a different location.

blame it on jesus

 

buy a wrecked 99-04 gt with a good woring harness and power train use it as a parts car and swap everything over.... if a 4.6 isnt enought for you go to a junkyard and get a 5.4 out of a truck get the adaptor plates for the intake drop it in tune it and drive the SHIT out of it

 

Did not know that. Good info, thanks.

Out of curiosity what kmember did the 99 s351 use?

 

i just want a v8 in the stang .. car looks good now... now i am looking to up the power part of it... soo if i put a 4.6 will be a bitch with the motor mounts and the harnesss???