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Old 06-28-2009, 08:39 AM
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Default Mustang AC experts, look inside.

I don't know jack-shit about AC systems in cars and was in-fact going to just remove everything when I did the efi to carb swap. But, that plan is effectively out the window since summer got here and I realize that there is no way in hell I can go without AC.

My AC is blowing warm air, but I can confirm that certain parts are working.

For instance, the high side plumbing after the compressor is hot... very hot when the AC is turned on, the condenser and orafice tube/ liquid plumbing is all connected and working since that whole length of piping gets freezing cold while the AC is running. So cold that it gets a frozen over ice crust around it.

So, that is right where it goes into the firewall. I can also confirm that the blower motor under the glove compartment is working.

Knowing all of this, my guess is the evaporator is the weak link. I can get one from LRS and have it shipped by Monday for $120.... plus shipping.

I believe the system has already been converted to r134 type refridgerant so a cheaper starting point would be to try to charge the system first.

I'm gonna do that today, but does everything I have written here have any of you guys thinking the same as me? Or am I obviously missing something simple?

Thanks to whoever replies.
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it sounds like the orfice tube is clogged.its mybe time for a new dryer and a/c pump.let me know if you need help fixing the a/c.i know every part of that car.by the way all the a/c stuff on the car was from a mark 7.
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I might need a hand for sure.... I'm gonna definitely give it a shot on my own first, but I'll be damned if I pay some AC shop a ton of money to do the job.

I just read up on a bunch of articles, with pics. Looks like no fun having to take the steering column and dash out just to even get at the AC stuff up under there.
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Originally Posted by harold harper
.by the way all the a/c stuff on the car was from a mark 7.

Wait, so all of the under-dash stuff is from a Mark VII? How did it all bolt right up?

If I order a new evaporator, for a Mustang, will it be a direct replacement?
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did you put a set of gauges on it ? Whats the hi side reading ? A clogged o tube will be a real high high side pressure and low on the low side . It 'll usually suck down on the low side if you rev the engine with a clogged o tube liquid line
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I need to go get the gauges.... where is the best place to find those?
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I believe Harold meant the stuff in the engine bay is Mark VII, under the dash is Mustang.
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Originally Posted by Zman
I believe Harold meant the stuff in the engine bay is Mark VII, under the dash is Mustang.

Yeah, I figured it had to be Mustang stuff under the dash.

I think the problem is under the dash.... something is making the liquid side plumbing turn iced over. It's freezing cold before the firewall... and no water is dripping out of the drain hole.
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Originally Posted by harold harper
it sounds like the orfice tube is clogged.its mybe time for a new dryer and a/c pump.let me know if you need help fixing the a/c.i know every part of that car.by the way all the a/c stuff on the car was from a mark 7.

Been thinking about this, and I searched a little more and found this:

Question: I see the small line going into the evaporator on my Ford Explorer, it’s really sweating and very cold at one point. Is there a restriction in the line somehow?


Answer: Most Ford Explorers have an orifice tube (expansion tube) in the inlet of the evaporator. It’s normal for it to be cold - if it is frozen and the vent air is not cold then it may be plugged up. If upon removal there is metal debris caked onto the orifice tube, the compressor will need to be replaced.


So, sounds about right.
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Find someone with a set of gauges and a vacum pump. When you change out the parts do yourself a favor and pull a vacum on it. This does a couple things...checks for leaks and gets the trash out of the sytem. Dont keep running it till you fix it or your gonna tras the compressor.
Im sure someone is gonna say you dont need to it will work without it, will it work probably so. It will make a difference in cold air and freeze you ass out cold air or if you have a leak, howlong it will stay cold for

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