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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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i currently have a C6 in the 85, i was offered an awesome deal on a 6 speed T-56 out of a formula t/a, other than bell housing and input shaft, would i have to get ne thing else to make it work? minus pedals and shit....
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i currently have a C6 in the 85, i was offered an awesome deal on a 6 speed T-56 out of a formula t/a, other than bell housing and input shaft, would i have to get ne thing else to make it work? minus pedals and shit....
crossmemeber, cut up the trans tunnel. with a c-6 you probably have already done that.
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Do not have to cut up the tranny tunnel to fit a T56 in there.

I've seen several Cobra spec T56 tranny's behind 4.6 motors in a Fox. The SN95 cars are identical underneath.

Get a 03 - 03 Terminator crossmember. Will need a T56 to SBF bell housing.

Not 100% sure on the GM spec T56,.. but I know they use a slave cylinder on the input shaft. You may need to convert to a hydraulic clutch setup,.. not sure if a provision for the clutch arm for a cable will be on the GM spec tranny. If not,.. you wont have any choice but to convert to the suxor hydraulic clutch setup.

You'll need to convert the brake pedal over to the clutch/brake pedal setup (PITA).

Personally,.. unless your getting this tranny for under $500,.. its not worth it. T5, 3550 or TKO much easier and better way to go if you absolutely need a manual.

C6 will probably long out live a T56 and be faster at the track.

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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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cut up the trans tunnel. with a c-6 you probably have already done that.
The same bellhousing works with a 289/302/351W/351C. Why would you have to cut anything? Misinformed
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I think theres a lot more to the fbody trans. I sware they didnt have a swappable bellhousing. You dont need a new input shaft, just the corresponding pressure plate. you will need a different driveshaft yoke though. plus as mentioned they are hydra setup, plus I think the shifter is in a different location vs what the mustang t56 has.
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i thought the T-56 viperspec trannys were pretty much identical, minus bellhousing etc etc... i have a C6 and the tunnel isnt cut out at all. still up in the air about it. it has 89xxx miles and he wants a G for it.
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Originally Posted by GNs-r-slow
The same bellhousing works with a 289/302/351W/351C. Why would you have to cut anything? Misinformed

You have too with something the size of a tko or toploader, figured they were about the same size. Never seen a c6 in a fox, was only speculating.

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Originally Posted by byondevl
You have too with something the size of a tko or toploader, figured they were about the same size.

Negative again,..

Back in 89 I have personally dropped a 390 into a 81 Mustang and used a 4 speed toploader. No cutting or tweaking at all. The only issue was that I couldnt keep the stock console because the shifter linkage placed the shifter a little farther back then the stock shifter location. So yes,.. some cutting for that. But none to fit the bell housing or tranny in there. Plenty of room. In the earlier 74 - 78 Pinto/Mustang II cars,.. yes,.. those cars had very small tranny tunnels,.. a C6 will not fit with out modifcation.

TKO 500 and 600 tranny's mate and work in fox cars just like a T5 being in there. No cutting at all.


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Originally Posted by Hurstmeister
Negative again,..

Back in 89 I have personally dropped a 390 into a 81 Mustang and used a 4 speed toploader. No cutting or tweaking at all. The only issue was that I couldnt keep the stock console because the shifter linkage placed the shifter a little farther back then the stock shifter location. So yes,.. some cutting for that. But none to fit the bell housing or tranny in there. Plenty of room. In the earlier 74 - 78 Pinto/Mustang II cars,.. yes,.. those cars had very small tranny tunnels,.. a C6 will not fit with out modifcation.

TKO 500 and 600 tranny's mate and work in fox cars just like a T5 being in there. No cutting at all.


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Interesting, the folks on corall I spoke with have all said tunnel needs some cutting.
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Originally Posted by Stealth Mode
i thought the T-56 viperspec trannys were pretty much identical, minus bellhousing etc etc... i have a C6 and the tunnel isnt cut out at all. still up in the air about it. it has 89xxx miles and he wants a G for it.

Too much money for that tranny in your car.

You will end up spending another $600 - $1000 to make it work.

You could buy a T5 and and have Gforce internals put in it for the same money and have a much stronger tranny.

Or just purchase a used T5 and be that much more money in the pocket.

If you want a T56,.. you will need to go with the 03/04 Cobra spec tranny. That would be the most cost effective and simplistic route to get a 6spd in there.

Personally,.. you need to get your motor and chassis up to par before considering a tranny of that caliber. Waste of money this early in the game. $1000 for a GM spec T56 in your car is too much. For another Fbody,.. sure,. its a good deal. Because it would bolt right in. That tranny will NOT be a simple bolt in procedure for your car. You will need a lot of modifcations to get it to work.

And talk to any LS1 owner who goes to the track on a regular basis. They have nothing but problems with clutches because of the hydraulic setup. I've done 2 LS1 clutch jobs. I know whats involved,.. and its a pain in the ass when using after market clutches. My last one I had to pull the tranny back out 3 times because I couldnt get the pedal adjusted right. Had to replace the slave twice and then shim it to get the pedal and clutch to work properly. I hate GM hydraulic clutch setups. I had a similar problem doing one in a 88 Iroc with a T5. Nothing but headaches. I wont do anymore clutches on Fbodies. I'll let the pro's handle it. LoL.


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