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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Question Hyd. Roller - Type/brand - step inside

Ive searched until I can't search anymore (not a search "expert" btw)

I can't seem to find any info (less than a year or 2 old) that says where one hydrolic roller is better than another. It seems I keep seeing varying opinions. I plan on running OE style lifters instead of the expensive ass link bar type unless I can get a clear answer on why I should run a link bar type. The only reason that I find is the link bars are simply for blocks that aren't machined for the spider/dogbone OE setup.

I've read on Hardcore 5.0 of extreme claims of 8000+rpm with factory hydrolic rollers on race cars that I'm certain are changed out regularly.

So if OE style is okay for my setup (no more than 7000rpm max) which brand should I go with. I also hear that most lifters are all made by the same company.


I'm looking at:

Frpp and trick flow look identical?

FRPP - Ford Racing M-6500-R302 - Ford Racing Hydraulic Roller Lifters - summitracing.com - $124.95

Trick FLow - Trick Flow Specialties TFS-21400004 - Trick Flow Hydraulic Roller Lifters - summitracing.com $120.00

or

Crane Cams - Crane Cams 36530-16 - Crane Hydraulic Roller Lifters - summitracing.com $183.95


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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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these are the lifters in my Fox. They explain it better then I can.

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Id run the OE style. I think the main reason for the lifters witht he built in link bar is for blocks that were not roller to begin with. Plus id imagine they are better built, but I havent heard of too many OEM lifter failures other than it not pumping up anymore
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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from AFM website...


After two years of designing and testing cam profiles, AFM now offers the new Hi-Rev series of hydraulic roller camshafts.

The Hi-Rev cam series with Hi-Rev valve springs will rev as high as 7600 rpm using the stock Ford hydraulic roller lifters without lifter float; 8200 rpm with titanium retainers, keepers and intake valves.

Check out our dyno graphs on the new Hi-Rev cams on our
5.0/5.8 DynoJet Results Page



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Thanks guys.

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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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any reason you are not going solid roller?
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Personally after owning a turbo car, I dont think you will need to spin it to 7,000. If you have to spin it that high you need to look more at turbo combo. Most power is made down low, thats why I love'um. As far as lifter selection I wouldnt be scared to run a stock lifter what so ever. HTH
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Originally Posted by GNs-r-slow
Personally after owning a turbo car, I dont think you will need to spin it to 7,000. If you have to spin it that high you need to look more at turbo combo. Most power is made down low, thats why I love'um. As far as lifter selection I wouldnt be scared to run a stock lifter what so ever. HTH

Yea, I don't think I will either, just using that as the absolute max rpm for the question.

Thanks bro, I gotta find a machinist tomorrow and depending on what that's gonna cost, I might be ordering my lifters tomorrow.
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What are you having machined???
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by $hawn
from AFM website...


After two years of designing and testing cam profiles, AFM now offers the new Hi-Rev series of hydraulic roller camshafts.

The Hi-Rev cam series with Hi-Rev valve springs will rev as high as 7600 rpm using the stock Ford hydraulic roller lifters without lifter float; 8200 rpm with titanium retainers, keepers and intake valves.

Check out our dyno graphs on the new Hi-Rev cams on our
5.0/5.8 DynoJet Results Page



Check out the cams below
+10000 Rick Anderson can make a killer hydro roller cam....
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