Another Fox rear disc conversion topic
so all this shit should be very self explanitory. I shall check what the brakes feel like and then go from there. There are aftermarket cylinders to install if needed...I need it with this big azz 351...thanks guys.....
Originally posted by Drewster
I am sure you, king of all jews will find a deal on five lug rims.. Come on your pat!
I am sure you, king of all jews will find a deal on five lug rims.. Come on your pat!
Have I ever told you that yellow M&M's are gay???
And is that pic in your sig your momma or your girlfriend??
Anyway...why you gotta bust a nigga trying to upgrade the car..it cost big money to do 5 lug rims also bro!! a little at a time.......
Rear Disc Upgrades: '87-88 Ford ThunderBird Turbo Coupe/'93 Cobra Rear Disc Brakes:
These are 4 lug 10" vented rotors. This is a great swap if you can find the whole rear end! It is a 8.8" rear end, and the stock gear ratio is 3.55 for the manuals, 3.73 for the autos on the Turbo Coupes, and 3.08 on the 93 Cobra. Keep in mind the axle is .75" wider than the stock Mustangs, you will need to adapt the brake lines fittings. The easiest way is to use the drum brake rear hardlines and adapt at the caliper softlines. You need to drill the quad shock mounting holes 2" lower on the T-bird axle for the Mustang. For E-Brake cables, you need to purchase use the FMS cables. If you have a '93 vintage, you need to use the '93 Cobra cables. Ford made the '93 E-Brake cables like the Sn95 units with a center mounting in the tranny tunnel. 93 Cobra E-Brake cable #F3ZZ-2A635-A.
If you cannot get the whole axle or do not want it, get all the brake lines, calipers, bolts, rotors and axles. Then swap this into your existing axle. Here is a parts list that you need to do the swap from the '87-88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe or '93 Cobra:
10" 4 lug vented rotors
rear calipers
rear caliper brackets
Axles -- if you use the stock caliper brackets. They are 3/4" wider than the stock '87-93 units.
soft brake lines
(2)FMS M-2809-A ebrake cables for '87-92 cars, '93 Cobra units for '93 year cars
(1) FMS M-2810-A center Ebrake cable
FMS M2450-A proportioning valve solid end cap
Adjustable proportioning valve
new 2 port 4 wheel disc master cylinder (1" bore for stock front calipers or 1 1/16" for the 73mm fronts)
3-2 port master cylinder conversion. $25.00 shipped
2 adapter fittings to use the stock drum brake hardline with the softlines, $10
The discontinued Ford M-2300-C kits uses the same calipers and rotors from the 87-88 Turbo Coupe, but stock length axles. SSBC and other companies have picked up this Ford kit and sell them for about $600. If you can get the calipers and rotors, but not the axles or axle brackets, call North RaceCars for these brackets! These will allow you to use the stock length rear axles with the TC rear disc parts!
These are 4 lug 10" vented rotors. This is a great swap if you can find the whole rear end! It is a 8.8" rear end, and the stock gear ratio is 3.55 for the manuals, 3.73 for the autos on the Turbo Coupes, and 3.08 on the 93 Cobra. Keep in mind the axle is .75" wider than the stock Mustangs, you will need to adapt the brake lines fittings. The easiest way is to use the drum brake rear hardlines and adapt at the caliper softlines. You need to drill the quad shock mounting holes 2" lower on the T-bird axle for the Mustang. For E-Brake cables, you need to purchase use the FMS cables. If you have a '93 vintage, you need to use the '93 Cobra cables. Ford made the '93 E-Brake cables like the Sn95 units with a center mounting in the tranny tunnel. 93 Cobra E-Brake cable #F3ZZ-2A635-A.
If you cannot get the whole axle or do not want it, get all the brake lines, calipers, bolts, rotors and axles. Then swap this into your existing axle. Here is a parts list that you need to do the swap from the '87-88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe or '93 Cobra:
10" 4 lug vented rotors
rear calipers
rear caliper brackets
Axles -- if you use the stock caliper brackets. They are 3/4" wider than the stock '87-93 units.
soft brake lines
(2)FMS M-2809-A ebrake cables for '87-92 cars, '93 Cobra units for '93 year cars
(1) FMS M-2810-A center Ebrake cable
FMS M2450-A proportioning valve solid end cap
Adjustable proportioning valve
new 2 port 4 wheel disc master cylinder (1" bore for stock front calipers or 1 1/16" for the 73mm fronts)
3-2 port master cylinder conversion. $25.00 shipped
2 adapter fittings to use the stock drum brake hardline with the softlines, $10
The discontinued Ford M-2300-C kits uses the same calipers and rotors from the 87-88 Turbo Coupe, but stock length axles. SSBC and other companies have picked up this Ford kit and sell them for about $600. If you can get the calipers and rotors, but not the axles or axle brackets, call North RaceCars for these brackets! These will allow you to use the stock length rear axles with the TC rear disc parts!
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Ryan
1990 Mustang GT (In Process)
1993 LX Coupe (Daily Driver, but just choose not to)
2005 Excursion (Big Pig)
Ryan
1990 Mustang GT (In Process)
1993 LX Coupe (Daily Driver, but just choose not to)
2005 Excursion (Big Pig)
Also you can buy the master cyliner at the parts store, either get a 94-95 master, a 93 cobra, a 86-87 SVO, 87-88 Licncoln MK VII all these are the same bore size of 1 1/16" stock is 1". You can see the trend, because if you go in there aksing for a 93 cobra master, you are going to get fucked, either on price or they will say it does not exist. 94-95 master is your best choice.
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Ryan
1990 Mustang GT (In Process)
1993 LX Coupe (Daily Driver, but just choose not to)
2005 Excursion (Big Pig)
Ryan
1990 Mustang GT (In Process)
1993 LX Coupe (Daily Driver, but just choose not to)
2005 Excursion (Big Pig)
OK, let's try to sift through some of this....
1) As others have said that is turbo coupe stuff not off of a 93 Cobra, but there is really no difference. (Just whoever sold it to you probably tried to sell it as special)
2)The 1993 Cobra master cylinder is still available as Bendix #12669 (Advance auto sells them for $66.96 NEW)
3)The emergency brake cables are best bought through FRRP as part # M-2809-A as they will be cheaper than buying them through Ford parts network. They are around $50 for the pair.
http://www.fortesparts.com/products.cfm?cat=brakes
4)Yes you will need to do a 2 port conversion, and there are kits out there (I believe it is matt90gt on corral).
5)Just adapt your rear hard lines to some soft lines as stated above.
6)Don't expect any great improvement in braking. You will get better results with a 73mm caliper upgrade in the front.
1) As others have said that is turbo coupe stuff not off of a 93 Cobra, but there is really no difference. (Just whoever sold it to you probably tried to sell it as special)
2)The 1993 Cobra master cylinder is still available as Bendix #12669 (Advance auto sells them for $66.96 NEW)
3)The emergency brake cables are best bought through FRRP as part # M-2809-A as they will be cheaper than buying them through Ford parts network. They are around $50 for the pair.
http://www.fortesparts.com/products.cfm?cat=brakes
4)Yes you will need to do a 2 port conversion, and there are kits out there (I believe it is matt90gt on corral).
5)Just adapt your rear hard lines to some soft lines as stated above.
6)Don't expect any great improvement in braking. You will get better results with a 73mm caliper upgrade in the front.
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"I'm in the 82nd Airborne and this is as far as the bastards are going!"
93 Cobra, R302 331,canfields,T-76,TKO......sold
87 Coupe, 466, Edelbrock heads,Vic jr,150 shot 10.41@129.5...sold
2006 Honda 450ER .....new toy
Do you own a Torch Red FRC and tremble every time you drive under I75 on Hwy 60 and look in your rearview mirror? If so you are suffering from what is known as Cobraphobia.
"I'm in the 82nd Airborne and this is as far as the bastards are going!"
93 Cobra, R302 331,canfields,T-76,TKO......sold
87 Coupe, 466, Edelbrock heads,Vic jr,150 shot 10.41@129.5...sold
2006 Honda 450ER .....new toy
Do you own a Torch Red FRC and tremble every time you drive under I75 on Hwy 60 and look in your rearview mirror? If so you are suffering from what is known as Cobraphobia.



