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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BAMF
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This has nothing to do with "OMG BAD SOCIALISTS!" and us becomming like that shithole UK. This has to do with corrupt politicians that need to be tarred, feathered, and drug through the streets 1776 style. The sooner people realize that the sooner we can run these fucks out of power and try again. Sadly, I don't think people will ever realize that or nut up, so its a moot point.
I totally agree 100%.



Look at this.
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Main article: President of the United States

The Executive branch consists of the President and delegates. The President is both the head of state and government, as well as the military commander-in-chief (only when called into actual military services), chief diplomat and chief of party. The President, according to the Constitution, must "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." The President presides over the executive branch of the federal government, a vast organization numbering about 4 million people, including 1 million active-duty military personnel. The current president is Barack Obama.
The President may sign legislation passed by Congress into law, or may veto it, preventing it from becoming law unless two-thirds of both houses of Congress vote to override the veto. The President may, with the consent of two-thirds of the Senate, make treaties with foreign nations. The President may be impeached by a majority in the House and removed from office by a two-thirds majority in the Senate for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." The President may not dissolve Congress or call special elections, but does have the power to pardon, or release, criminals convicted of offenses against the federal government (except in cases of impeachment), enact executive orders, and (with the consent of the Senate) appoint Supreme Court justices and federal judges."

Obama really doesnt pass any laws. He has the authority to sign them into law and veto them. Thats it. Congress and Senate makes the laws. Those people are the crooks and the lobbyists that pay them for their endorsements are what is, for lack of a better phrase, making the rich richer and the poor poorer.

As far as signing bills into law by the president, the president has cabinet members and officials that basically inform the president of what he should do. That being said, I know most of you have spoken to lawyers and they do have a particular way how they word things to make something sound much, MUCH better than it actually is. Politicians do the same thing.

I hate politicians in general but as far as Obama goes, he was the lesser of two evils. I know everyone likes to bitch about how tax and the welfare system works but I am part of that group that doesnt make enough money to pay for all their expenses. My girlfriend and I barely have enough to pay the bills and to top it off, she is pregnant. We are going to have to pay $240 every two weeks just for health insurance on her and the baby, that being said, anything that keeps me from paying more into the government is what Im going to go with.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Ahhh...The sweet smell of stiring the pot...I love it. LOL

Anyway....Why should I move to Mexico? I was born here, I served my country, and so now I DESERVE to be here. Thats more than some freaking mexican fresh out of the river can say. Ship his ass back to Mexico. I don't care if he DOES do jobs that Americans won't do.

You see, it isn't that Americans "wont do" certain jobs. It's that we refuse to do them unless we are compensated for the crap work that it is. Whereas an illegal will do ANYTHING in order to remain undetected and stay here. So, they are also paying a high price. It's just not a monetary figure.

I agree that we should punish the businesses that employ illegals. Damn, fine them $10,000 for each one that they are employing and make it a per day fine. It will get expensive mighty quick.

The Unions are (as Dr.Dirt said) simply legalized extortion rings. I watched many many years as the machinist unions held Boeing's balls and squeezed them for more medical benifits. Boeing gave in, and the workers suffered a skimpy christmas, but they got their benifits.

Next on my griping list...American Indians. Didn't we take over the country? This is OUR land bitches! GTFO with your non-tax paying asses. We came, we conquered, and by our good graces, you have been allowed to keep land tax free. The free ride should end already. Hell, it's been a LOOOONG time now. (I'm part Cherokee, so I am allowed to gripe about it. LOL ) I think the white man had payed for his ANCESTORS sins enough already. Hell, I didn't kill any indians...Why do I have to pay for their kids crap?

Oh yeah, what about this NAFTA crap too? The one way highway....Where Mexican trucks can use our highways to transport things to Canada....FREE OF CHARGE! They don't have to pay taxes on the loads, they don't have to have AMERICAN DRIVERS LICENSES, and their trucks don't have to meet American safety standards! WTF???? Cut that crap out NOW!

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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I am a RETIRED TEAMSTER from New York (local 282) not all union workers make $80.00 an hr. as you seem to think. Just remember back in the 30,s people died trying to get fair pay for there work, and to get rid of sweat shopes and child lobor, UNIONS made this country great, and they still do. And as for President Obama, at least he is trying to do something to bring back our way of life that we were used to befor the eight years of our past leader that got us in the fucking mess we have now. They only cared about the rich fuckers in this country , and the rest of us got shit on. I hope he hits a grand slam homerun for us, only time will tell, but at least he,s trying, I just wonder what would be like now if the Republicans were still in office, how much worse it would get for us, since they didnt care what was happing to us common folk in the last eight years, I did not want to get involved in this bullshit, but enough is enough----Al
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Yeah, Teamsters Union. There's a nice group. Good role models there. I wish I knew where Jimmy was so I could shake his hand. Yeah, I know not all union members make $80/hr for screwing a radio into a dashboard but you get the point...or should.

Injuns? Yeah, you're right there. I'm a card carrying member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. I've never see a bigger group of whiny, I've been fucked over, worthless bastiges as Native American Activists and great wannabe warriors and hunters. Well, yes I have but they shall remain nameless. Everybody seems to think the world owes them something just because they exist. Nobody owes you anything. Nobody owes jchauncy insurance or rent money just because his girlfriend is pregnant. Just because some dipshit like Obama says I should pay for all this crap doesn't mean that it's so. It just means that you and a lot of others like you are willing to sell your vote for cheap.

Don't get your panties in a wad because nobody owes DrDirt anything either...but then, I'm not asking for anything either. Every single person in this country needs to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for themselves.

Didn't mean to pick on jchauncey there but, the last paragraph of his post up there sums it up better than anything anybody else has written yet. Dude, you're driving around in an '02 GT, and jawjacking on the internet complaining about how you don't have enough to pay your bills and now your girlfriend is pregnant. Come on, really. You're looking for sympathy because you're being mistreated in this world and the government (read the taxpayers) needs to fix things for you? Why is that?

Some of you guys need to do a search on here for "Barstool Economics". That was the greatest piece of wisdom I have seen posted on this board or anywhere else for that matter. That's the way things really work. And no, I'm not the top guy on that ladder. I'm several rungs down. As a matter of fact, I don't get any of those drinks. I just sit around and commiserate with the group and give my beer to somebody else.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Yay....Tax me more, so that my tax dollars can go to feed the worthless lazy booger over there who won't get off his ass to work because he can make more on unemployment.

Obama is a socialist. period. This country was founded on capitolistic ideas and dreams. If everyone is equal, then where is the incentive to excell? There isn't any other than personal gratification. Why then, are we allowing him to grasp us by the balls and put us into our little cubicles and tell us to do mindless jobs for the same pay as someone else who does less? Of course, the polititians are not going to take a pay cut in order to help out the average poor folk. Hell no...They just keep giving themselves raises.

Oh, and I hope the teamsters have fun when the big three degrade to the big ONE. All united under Obama.

All that is happening currently, is the rich are getting a LOT richer by preying on the poor, and the poor are getting even poorer. Do you think that the rich are hurting right now? HELL NO! They have the money to invest and take advantage of this shitstorm. And when it's over, they will own 9/10 of America...and we will be working for them just like slaves.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Let me ask everyone this..... whats better for the overall economy.....

To have a huge gap between the rich paying less taxes and poor paying more (% wise)

OR

To have more people make the around same money and be taxed near the same?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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Is it just me, or has anyone noticed that for the un-employed its so fuckin hard to get a job, let alone a career, other than joining the miliary forces? Maybe thats how the government wants it... just my .2

yes i have kinda screwed myself over a bit but i have been trying so hard to find a job. but i am not being picky neither. i dont care if the job is shoveling shit in the rain i would take about anything. even though i do have skills that should land me better jobs that i busted my ass getting and learning. and going into the army is not even an option for me right now. i cant even do that. hell i have heard stories from older people telling me that when they were younger they got into trouble and the judge asked them if they wanted to go to jail or the army, why cant that still be in effect today? and as far as the bourder patrol, if i could i would join in a heart beat if i could. give me a high power rifle and lets just see how many people cross over that bourder. but then again you have people from the states that are helping them cross over as well.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Nobody answered my question ---I wonder what the Republicans would be doing for us now if they got into office?????????? same shit they always did---nothing
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by riverhead55
Nobody answered my question ---I wonder what the Republicans would be doing for us now if they got into office?????????? same shit they always did---nothing
Seriously, you want to turn this into Democrats vs. Republicans? Is there any more laughable of a debate approach than arguing over some stupid fucking letter?

Tackle the issues, not the bullshit your mainstream media pumps into your brain.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDirt
Yeah, Teamsters Union. There's a nice group. Good role models there. I wish I knew where Jimmy was so I could shake his hand. Yeah, I know not all union members make $80/hr for screwing a radio into a dashboard but you get the point...or should.

Injuns? Yeah, you're right there. I'm a card carrying member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. I've never see a bigger group of whiny, I've been fucked over, worthless bastiges as Native American Activists and great wannabe warriors and hunters. Well, yes I have but they shall remain nameless. Everybody seems to think the world owes them something just because they exist. Nobody owes you anything. Nobody owes jchauncy insurance or rent money just because his girlfriend is pregnant. Just because some dipshit like Obama says I should pay for all this crap doesn't mean that it's so. It just means that you and a lot of others like you are willing to sell your vote for cheap.

Don't get your panties in a wad because nobody owes DrDirt anything either...but then, I'm not asking for anything either. Every single person in this country needs to grow the fuck up and take responsibility for themselves.

Didn't mean to pick on jchauncey there but, the last paragraph of his post up there sums it up better than anything anybody else has written yet. Dude, you're driving around in an '02 GT, and jawjacking on the internet complaining about how you don't have enough to pay your bills and now your girlfriend is pregnant. Come on, really. You're looking for sympathy because you're being mistreated in this world and the government (read the taxpayers) needs to fix things for you? Why is that?

Some of you guys need to do a search on here for "Barstool Economics". That was the greatest piece of wisdom I have seen posted on this board or anywhere else for that matter. That's the way things really work. And no, I'm not the top guy on that ladder. I'm several rungs down. As a matter of fact, I don't get any of those drinks. I just sit around and commiserate with the group and give my beer to somebody else.
Whoah whoah whoah. Thats not the point I was making. I work my ass off. My GF and I both work 40+ hours a week and we barely make ends meet. I dont collect welfare and never will, I was stating that the way the tax system works under Obama I have to pay less of them than say someone that makes more money than I do. I think thats pretty fair. As far as the rest of what I stated I was more or less pointing out that Obama doesnt make laws. He passes them, or veto's them. In which congress and the senate and over rule the veto by voting in which case the process starts over.

The healthcare issue however, I dont agree with the system that works here at all. I pay for health insurance and then when I get sick I pay more to go to the doctor. The movie "Sicko," even if it is a Michael Moore movie is pretty eye-opening. Pharmaceutical companies and the healthcare industry as a whole is pretty much a scam. People in other countries have free healthcare and the doctors that provide in them are still compensated. The only difference is that the medical professionals are paid by taxes instead of insurance or out of my pocket. Yes I know it comes out of my paycheck in the form of taxes but the way it works here now is exactly the same for police or firemen.

The whole problem with that situation is the pharmaceutical companies have their fat cocks up these politicians asses in the form of lobbyists and donating generous sums of money to election campaigns.

Fuck it all, I know the whole system is just fucked beyond repair or FUBAR'd if you will. What can I do, nothing. I can take it up the ass because no fucking body can agree on a damn thing to do about it. What happened to compromise?
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