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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm new here and I thought I'd post up about my newest project. It's an 88 Mustang GT that's going to be just about an all-out race car. I am building it to road race and drift. Right now it nothing more than a sand blasted shell on a rotisserie, but soon, much of the metal on the inside of the car will be cut out of it and the cage will be done. The engine is being built now. Its a Four-Valve 4.6L with CNC ported heads, custom cams, short runner intake, and 12:1 compression, which should rev well above 8,000 rpm. Brakes and suspension are still up in the air, but that should be the easy part.

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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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sounds nice. I'm in the same process with a 93 lx hatch..

check out DriftLive Community - mustangs

good luck with the project!
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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I never understood how you can build a car for both roadracing and for drifting. The set ups are very different. Sure, it is possible to drift a roadrace car, and vis versa, but to lay out a plan on a all out, purpose built car that is set up for both is a bit misguided in my book, especially when it comes to suspension as that is where the main differences are.

What are you planning for suspension set up?
What tire set up?
what kind of power are you going to be putting down?

You're going to need a bunch more angle to seriously drift than the stock steering set up will allow.
from what I remember of older mustangs, the rear suspension leaves a lot to be desired. poor geometry and a solid axle are going to make it difficult to control while trying to drift.
road racing, those things can be over come without major modification. But between the steering issues and the rear suspension issues, those are the main reasons why you don't see more mustangs at the drift events.
Is a suspension conversion out of range? would the newer 2005+ style suspension solve these problems?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Empire
I never understood how you can build a car for both roadracing and for drifting. The set ups are very different. Sure, it is possible to drift a roadrace car, and vis versa, but to lay out a plan on a all out, purpose built car that is set up for both is a bit misguided in my book, especially when it comes to suspension as that is where the main differences are.

What are you planning for suspension set up?
What tire set up?
what kind of power are you going to be putting down?

You're going to need a bunch more angle to seriously drift than the stock steering set up will allow.
from what I remember of older mustangs, the rear suspension leaves a lot to be desired. poor geometry and a solid axle are going to make it difficult to control while trying to drift.
road racing, those things can be over come without major modification. But between the steering issues and the rear suspension issues, those are the main reasons why you don't see more mustangs at the drift events.
Is a suspension conversion out of range? would the newer 2005+ style suspension solve these problems?
it's going to be a race car. gutted interior, cage,... just a bare bones lightweight Mustang. The front suspension will have 2 setups. One unmodified rack for road racing, and a modified rack and spindles for increased angle. The engine will be set back in the engine compartment (this will improve balance, which Mustangs are normally very nose heavy). The brakes will be ’03 Cobra brakes with a second set of rear calipers as a hydraulic e-brake. Rear suspension is up in the air. I have a live axle and an ’03 Cobra IRS. The 03 Cobra IRS has wheelhop issues so i may use the live axle with a torque arm. The torque arm would make it a three-link set up with a Panhard bar. I am going to run coil-overs in all four corners and the difference between road racing and drifting is a shock adjustment.

if the car is 2800 pounds and makes 475 rwhp i dont see any issues with either set up... do you?
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FattyMcButterball
it's going to be a race car. gutted interior, cage,... just a bare bones lightweight Mustang. The front suspension will have 2 setups. One unmodified rack for road racing, and a modified rack and spindles for increased angle. The engine will be set back in the engine compartment (this will improve balance, which Mustangs are normally very nose heavy). The brakes will be ’03 Cobra brakes with a second set of rear calipers as a hydraulic e-brake. Rear suspension is up in the air. I have a live axle and an ’03 Cobra IRS. The 03 Cobra IRS has wheelhop issues so i may use the live axle with a torque arm. The torque arm would make it a three-link set up with a Panhard bar. I am going to run coil-overs in all four corners and the difference between road racing and drifting is a shock adjustment.

if the car is 2800 pounds and makes 475 rwhp i dont see any issues with either set up... do you?
You read my mind. I'm staying live axle and there are many ways to modify the front for more angle.. which isn't necessary honestly.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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Angle is pretty important. I dont think a shock adjustment will make a road race car into a drift car, but i look forward to seeing you at the drift events.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Just get out and drive. There are enough people "building" their cars that will never see the track.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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is up in the air. I have a live axle and an ’03 Cobra IRS. The 03 Cobra IRS has wheelhop issues so i may use the live axle with a torque arm.
Wanna sell the IRS?
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Old Aug 7, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 98T/A
Just get out and drive. There are enough people "building" their cars that will never see the track.
quoted for truth.
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Maybe you can pick up a few ideas, but stay away from the IRS

https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/p...g-project.html
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