Worth Drifting this?
Originally posted by satanshatch
wrong !
they dont break loose easy.... Not M3s SORRY. They are set up to Corner.
wrong !
they dont break loose easy.... Not M3s SORRY. They are set up to Corner.
Hrmmmm... yea someone should have told Tiff Needel as well, especially when he went out in the new E46 M3.
The prime enemy of stock E36 M3's when trying to drift is the low HP and good, wide tires. It will drift quite beautifully though and very controllably, just the limits are so high that most drivers can not even approach them. My good friend had an E46 M3 and with 245 fronts and 275 rears we both had no trouble managing 50+mph slides, so the car's balance and suspension won't work against you. The rear suspension on BMW's is usually pretty stiff from the factory, but BMW dials in understeer by staggering the tires. They even got complaints on the '95 M3's (235/40 at all 4 corners) that the car was too tail happy, so E36 M3 Evo's got 225 fronts, 245 rears, and E46 is 225 front 255 rear. Switch to a non-stagger and the cars are very slide friendly.
In case you don't know, I'm the guy with the black E36 325 who goes to most DG trials events. I've had to run skinny rear tires cause of my sorry power levels, but I hate doing that because while it makes power oversteer easier, it really makes the car a handful for lift-off oversteer and inertia drifts. Ehh, no worries, the turbo goes on soon....
Oh and as Matt mentioned, (Matt, I'm always surprised by your random knowledge of BMW's), you should get a GT oil pan and pickup from BMW. If you can;t do that, at leat make sure you're running 7.5-8 quarts for any kind of racing event.
Cheers,
Sean
The prime enemy of stock E36 M3's when trying to drift is the low HP and good, wide tires. It will drift quite beautifully though and very controllably, just the limits are so high that most drivers can not even approach them. My good friend had an E46 M3 and with 245 fronts and 275 rears we both had no trouble managing 50+mph slides, so the car's balance and suspension won't work against you. The rear suspension on BMW's is usually pretty stiff from the factory, but BMW dials in understeer by staggering the tires. They even got complaints on the '95 M3's (235/40 at all 4 corners) that the car was too tail happy, so E36 M3 Evo's got 225 fronts, 245 rears, and E46 is 225 front 255 rear. Switch to a non-stagger and the cars are very slide friendly.
In case you don't know, I'm the guy with the black E36 325 who goes to most DG trials events. I've had to run skinny rear tires cause of my sorry power levels, but I hate doing that because while it makes power oversteer easier, it really makes the car a handful for lift-off oversteer and inertia drifts. Ehh, no worries, the turbo goes on soon....
Oh and as Matt mentioned, (Matt, I'm always surprised by your random knowledge of BMW's), you should get a GT oil pan and pickup from BMW. If you can;t do that, at leat make sure you're running 7.5-8 quarts for any kind of racing event.
Cheers,
Sean
+1 on that. I drove a 97 coupe for a while and that was fun, but it would grip like a mofo. Drop the stagger. The horsepower is also an issue. If you can bump the power a little it will go a long way. E36 are fun as hell in the wet!! They are fun, but I like my E46 better. The power is intoxicating and that 8,000 rpm scream gives me chills every time.
Originally posted by neurovish
Shit...I wish i knew this earlier, I could've told Bob to stop drifting his car all over the place.
Shit...I wish i knew this earlier, I could've told Bob to stop drifting his car all over the place.
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1998 J-Spec Z28 convertible (daily driver)
1991 240sx (U.S drift beater)
1990 SILVIA (JP drift beater) SOLD
1990 R32 Skyline (RB25 powered )GONE
1987 Toyota Corolla GTS (NEVER DIE)
anti-oval drift association
My mom's 2004 AUTOMATIC BMW 325 convertible drifts nicely.

Oh yeah and check this out https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/s...hreadid=167900 we WILL make it drift.
Oh yeah and check this out https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/s...hreadid=167900 we WILL make it drift.
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Originally posted by Hachi_T
the other thing is parts. BMW are expensive to fix, way you cut it, so be careful. Consider buying a beater car like a 240 and control your costs.
the other thing is parts. BMW are expensive to fix, way you cut it, so be careful. Consider buying a beater car like a 240 and control your costs.
And it will probly be out at dday3, i guess we will see if it drifts or not..
No promises tho.
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