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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:23 PM
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Does pulling off a solenoid wire shut off the MDS without deleting it......and requiring a tuner?

One post says a tuner is a human and another says a tuner is a device to order......
Is the device a DIY tuner such as...................?

What specifically does MDS do?
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:24 PM
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Quote:Originally Posted by senor dodgeDoes pulling off a solenoid wire shut off the MDS without deleting it......and requiring a tuner?

One post says a tuner is a human and another says a tuner is a device to order......
Is the device a DIY tuner such as...................?


What specifically does MDS do?
Pulling a wire will set a code, and when a code (any code really) is set the PCM will disable the MDS system until fixed.

MDS shuts down 4 cylinders to save fuel.

Tuner can be both. Tuner that looks at logged data and adjusts files to improve performance (human)

Tuner that allows for replacing of factory calibrated settings to enhance various items. Typically you have to have one before a Tuner (human) can adjust it custom like.
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:25 PM
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One post says a tuner is a human and another says a tuner is a device
The word "tuner" is used interchangeably but one is a tuning device and the other is a person who tunes the engine using a tuning device.

The tune (software & settings) that is in the engine controller (PCM or powertrain control module) can be modified by reflashing the PCM. To reflash the PCM a tuner (person) changes the software/settings and creates a file that can be loaded to a tuning device. The tuning device is connected to the PCM (via the car's OBD2 port) and the tuning device reflashes the PCM.
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:33 PM
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"...the failure was gradual over a long period of time."

This gives the impression that the damage was spread out over multiple OCIs, which lines up with what I had previously envisioned as well. However, I can think of at least one instance of a similar failure (on a Challenger) where it was much more sudden. The owner in question mentioned the damage occurring so quickly that he noticed it was running rough one morning on the way to work, and before he could make it home, it died and wouldn't run again. Now, in his case, I know they ID'd the lifter freezing as the problem - it froze and ate the cam up. Do we know if the same thing occurred here?

The reason I remember that Challenger owner's story over many others I've heard is that I previously believe keeping an eye on thing via UOAs would be sufficient to catch any failure before it got to the failed point. However, the Challenger owner corrected me with his story, as he had been doing exactly that (getting regular UOAs), yet his failed in the middle of an OCI, and so he never had a chance to see it coming.

Just one more data point to add to the story...
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Default When I first read about MDS deactivating the same 4 cylinders I was concerned

When I first read about MDS deactivating the same 4 cylinders I was concerned. Even if they just alternate between the same two groups of 4 that would even out the wear.

Here's GM's new system.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...-deactivation/

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/03/...t-works-video/
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