i am really liking the ptp turbo. i think i can hit that 350 hp within the month!!!!

 

i have about 3000 or so saved up and am really seeing what i can play with.

 

Guys I want to clarify couple things.

1. The mopar blue pate DOES not blow off in vacuum and all the time. If it does its INSTALLER error and I can prove it to anyone who has the symptom. Its all a myth that was spread by idiots on srtforums.

bmw, you admitted you wanted a BOV for sound and I can live with that. As long as you didnt try to tell me its better.

In regards to you comment about recirculating: The air is re-circulated on the outlet side of the compressor....it does not pass thru the compressor a second time.

fwddsm....I saw your comments about stage 2 dyno..
What do you prefer high dyno #'s ? Or a car that does the job? Do you know how much air flows across your IC when you're driving? VS that dyno fan blowing?
Dyno's are just for measuring changes..not absolute performance in my opinion


Oh and the stock WGA does not suck..its a 4PSi spring, and its controlled by the PCM.
So now you wanna say but the boost dies in the upper rpm...well there's a reason. Invest in a OBDII logger and you'll see.

 

Explain the blue plate, because I installed it exactly how the instructions came with it from Mopar. Same directions I have read online as well. What is the light psh not psssssh, that I hear sometimes under vac close to 0? Mine does not blow off under vac all the time, just when I get close to the 0 and let off or shift.

I have nothing against stage 2, just the fact that they don't do well on the dyno so I've heard. I would prefer both a car that dyno well so I have proof of its power and a car that does the job. But a car that does the job is more important. Well... really come to think about it... you can run at the track, get a timeslip and prove otherwise with the Stage 2. So the dyno is not really that important.

I don't like the stock WGA and I have a ScanGauge Pro so I can watch all those parameters. I'm also running the PTP WGA T'd off to the green line, black line capped off... not pcm controlled. I was told to do this by NeonDan.

 

but wouldnt an upgraded wga be worth the benefits? all i have read on acquiring a 300whp srt4 with stock turbo requires a fmic and new wga (for boost reasons) since the stocker is set at 15 and can really only reach 17 and has a huge boost drop at redline.

 

other mods require pcm upgrade,stage 1 or better injectors and some other stuff i cant remeber right now. (read it on srtforums)

 

Your problem is right there in your post. The PCM has no correlation between your boost and BOV solenoid. One is PCM controlled while the other is not...

Look closely at the BOV(pink/blue line), it goes thru a solenoid. When you press the gas, the PCM switches the solenoid to route the blue-line into the pink line...therefore sealing the BOV. The blue line is the HIGHEST pressue source in the turbo, thats why its used for the BOV, to ensure its sealed at the slightest boost.

When you get off the gas, it removes this pressue and you hear the pssh...the reason you hear in vacuum is because of your WGA. The WGA is causing the car to hold boost EARLIER than the PCM expects....so pshhh..

 

You really should 'think' about your goals...I bolded your because only you really know what you want.

Of course there are many ways to reach 300whp, but the price and effort is what I would consider....I've not seen an srt make 300whp on a FMIC and WGA...usually some fuel pigy back is involved + intake + tuning.

The only reason I mention these things is several years ago I started going down that road....and I'm glad I turned around and went the Stage Kit way. The amount of money I spent not to mention the time installing things, and then troubleshooting stupid issues, was not worth it.

 

All my lines are routed as stock. Every single one. The only thing I did was cap off the black line that would go to the WGA... I left the line there and just capped it off. I "T" off the green line and ran a hose from that to the WGA. Non-PCM controlled boost.

The BOV was still doing what its doing now when the WGA was PCM controlled. The problem is that now its more prone to PTB. It also did it when I was on the stock WGA w/just the blue plate no other mods/bolt-on's... all stock vac lines.

Everyone I've spoked too, even on a completely stock setup... meaning all they had was a blue plate. Said the same thing that they would get the small psh or tsh sound under vac. I experienced the samething when I only had the blue plate and everything else was stock. I don't think its install error because like I said I installed it just like the instructions from Mopar said and these are the instructions that can be found online as well. It's not leaking either atleast it wasn't about a month ago when I had a boost leak test down.

So I can understand one being PCM controlled (BOV) and the other not being PCM controlled (WGA). But I don't understand how your saying its the WGA causing it but when I was on the stock WGA with no mods besides the blue plate it was still doing it.

 

And neither do I. That ^^ makes no sense. There had to have been a pressue leak somewhere. It just doesnt follow logic, and it cant be back magic, although I think some cars are possessed.

I've had my rice plate for 4years now, and still dont experience any pre-mature pshh.