Good Shocks, cheap springs...?!?!?!
Kumar,
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There are at least 6 types of springs, and I don't know which ones your car has. I am willing to look at them and after some measuring, I can
give a recommendation. Sometimes you may need a camber kit,
depending on how low you want to go. -Bob
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There are at least 6 types of springs, and I don't know which ones your car has. I am willing to look at them and after some measuring, I can
give a recommendation. Sometimes you may need a camber kit,
depending on how low you want to go. -Bob
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Got a video? Email it to Bobfixesitup@yahoo.com
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Keystone picture gallery is here:
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Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
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https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
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People who don't know how to measure a suspension don't know how to cut stock springs, that's why they think it cannot be done. My personal car has cut stock coils which lower it by 3" and you can see the photographic proof when you see me at the meets.
A spring that is too short is too short whether you paid $300 for it,
or cut it too short all by yourself. Cut springs don't destroy suspensions, Springs that are too short destroy suspensions. People who don't know how to measure a suspension usually cut them too short, and then claim it cannot be done.
I am the only person on Tampa Racing who knows how to carefully measure a suspension and cut springs without blown shocks, without beaten up suspensions and without eaten tires. -Bob
Maybe we can take a look at your suspension and see if you can safely go lower.
A spring that is too short is too short whether you paid $300 for it,
or cut it too short all by yourself. Cut springs don't destroy suspensions, Springs that are too short destroy suspensions. People who don't know how to measure a suspension usually cut them too short, and then claim it cannot be done.
I am the only person on Tampa Racing who knows how to carefully measure a suspension and cut springs without blown shocks, without beaten up suspensions and without eaten tires. -Bob
Maybe we can take a look at your suspension and see if you can safely go lower.
Once your stock suspension has been rigged up and cut, It's Only a short time before your out buying new shocks...... because both the ride is unbearable, and your tires are prematurely wearing every other row of tread.
With bad shocks your car will no longer stick to the road the way it's supposed to

And Bob, I told myself to just stay out of your way and let you preach what you want to about suspension, However... Now you are just stretching the truth and I must interject.
There Is No Way .........In Hell....... That Your Car is Lowered 3" !!!!!!
I did see your car at the meet last weekend and there is barely any drop what so ever, Maybe your getting your inches mixed up with your millimeters......... Or your just delusional.
Why don't you take some time and read the post that I stickied in this section,....... that was created by "Treekiller", You may learn something about new suspension set-ups.
As for shocks not blowing on a lowered car, BuLL Shit!!!
If your car is lowered anymore then 2" from factory, and you hit one hardcore bump (w/ or w/o a Bumpstop installed) Your chances of bottoming out the shock are extremely good.
All it takes is one time and your stock shock/strut is done.
I could come up with a million and one more reasons not to cut your stock springs.
Kumar, If your interested in lowering your vehicle, Please PM me and I can walk you through the purchase of an inexpensive set of Springs and shocks.
-Jeff
wow, lots of feed back, i am ready to get new coilovers, im looking for used coilovers, if anyone knows of any, let me know, ebay coilovers are my last opition worse come to worse.
But my KYB GR2 shocks are good for lowering right? Honestly I am happy with my ride hieght i just want the front a little lower, then I'll be happy, I realy just want new front springs that can lower my front an inch more.
I would just cut the Sprint springs in the front a little, but even now they seem like there too short for the shocks, you guys understand? If I cut a coil off the springs will be to short to fit properly on my shocks.
Any advice for this?
I see no point in getting new rear springs if my height is fine, i just want the front a lil lower. Thanks so much for all the help guys.
But my KYB GR2 shocks are good for lowering right? Honestly I am happy with my ride hieght i just want the front a little lower, then I'll be happy, I realy just want new front springs that can lower my front an inch more.
I would just cut the Sprint springs in the front a little, but even now they seem like there too short for the shocks, you guys understand? If I cut a coil off the springs will be to short to fit properly on my shocks.
Any advice for this?
I see no point in getting new rear springs if my height is fine, i just want the front a lil lower. Thanks so much for all the help guys.
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Maxspeed = Junk IMO.
Very cheap product made of very cheap materials.
If you want a set of cheap Coilovers, I have a brand spankin new set of Chrome w/ Blue springs.
They are Ebay specials and will sell for real cheap.
PM me if interested.
Very cheap product made of very cheap materials.
If you want a set of cheap Coilovers, I have a brand spankin new set of Chrome w/ Blue springs.
They are Ebay specials and will sell for real cheap.
while I reccomend cheap coil over kits as a soloution to lowering springs in the right application. keep in mind dampers tuned for stock springs (GR-2 or other stock type replacement) just will not cut it. since most of these kits make up for reduced travel with spring rates double or triple the factory spring. while they may not blow if not over-lowered.. but your gonna have trouble getting the car to behave.
ones tuned for "sport springs" are the bare minimum I would reccomend. you can pick up a good set of shocks for a honda for $450 (bilstein sport) which is a high pressure monotube with a built in bumpstop. that should do Okay. but I've said before for not much more you can get a proper suspension kit. from K-sport or D2 or Megan... lower the car and keep spring preload. I personally like the K-sport since it's what I use but any of the entry level kits will perform well. make sure you find one with adjustable mounts. so you can lower the vehicle without loosing travel.
ones tuned for "sport springs" are the bare minimum I would reccomend. you can pick up a good set of shocks for a honda for $450 (bilstein sport) which is a high pressure monotube with a built in bumpstop. that should do Okay. but I've said before for not much more you can get a proper suspension kit. from K-sport or D2 or Megan... lower the car and keep spring preload. I personally like the K-sport since it's what I use but any of the entry level kits will perform well. make sure you find one with adjustable mounts. so you can lower the vehicle without loosing travel.
while I reccomend cheap coil over kits as a soloution to lowering springs in the right application. keep in mind dampers tuned for stock springs (GR-2 or other stock type replacement) just will not cut it. since most of these kits make up for reduced travel with spring rates double or triple the factory spring. while they may not blow if not over-lowered.. but your gonna have trouble getting the car to behave.
ones tuned for "sport springs" are the bare minimum I would reccomend. you can pick up a good set of shocks for a honda for $450 (bilstein sport) which is a high pressure monotube with a built in bumpstop. that should do Okay. but I've said before for not much more you can get a proper suspension kit. from K-sport or D2 or Megan... lower the car and keep spring preload. I personally like the K-sport since it's what I use but any of the entry level kits will perform well. make sure you find one with adjustable mounts. so you can lower the vehicle without loosing travel.
ones tuned for "sport springs" are the bare minimum I would reccomend. you can pick up a good set of shocks for a honda for $450 (bilstein sport) which is a high pressure monotube with a built in bumpstop. that should do Okay. but I've said before for not much more you can get a proper suspension kit. from K-sport or D2 or Megan... lower the car and keep spring preload. I personally like the K-sport since it's what I use but any of the entry level kits will perform well. make sure you find one with adjustable mounts. so you can lower the vehicle without loosing travel.
WOWOWOWOWOW your telling me that me KYB GR2 shocks arent for lowered aplications???? I got them cuz I thought they were...
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I am sorry they are Just stock upgrade Replacements, perhaps with mildly better valving. while wearing a "sporting" name GR-2's are anything but. Even their AGX adjustable is not damped well even at it's highest setting. once again better then stock and if your using a mild lowering spring it'll work just fine. but if you want to race. or have aspirations of a tunable car it's not the solution for you. Most of those shocks will work with the typical "lowering" spring. but I've had the KYB's not work with simple off the shelf Tein S-tech springs which were very low. (the US spec ones are better now) now keep in mind, your going with a stiffer spring and a damper that's not worn out like a stok one after 50,000 miles the car is going to feel 1000x better. it won't be "good" but you can live with it.. until you decide to get a proper suspension kit. and then you'll be blown away.
I just hate to see people upgrade in stages, since I did it, and bought springs, then shocks, then sleeves, then better shocks, then a real coil over kit. eventually I spent 3x what I would have if I personally just bit the bullet. Now that being said if you ever do pickup motorsport the next step up is HUGE from a cheap suspension kit, to a racing suspension. you start adding double, triple adjustable and external nitrogen cylinders. things get pricey QUICK... but the cheap kits are perfect for 99% of everybody that does not get a paycheck for their racing.
We used to say around my shop KYB stood for "Keeps You Bouncing"

GR-2® Premium Shocks and Struts are specially designed to provide a smooth, secure ride with excellent control for drivers who are looking for ride comfort and improved handling. With its patented check valve, the GR-2® Premium Shocks and Struts always maintain excellent performance under even the roughest conditions. It also provides comfort and control that is often better than original equipment. GR-2® Premium Shocks and Struts are available for virtually all vehicles on the road today.
KYB used to market a decent product under the "GAB" name but it's been years since I've seen them on the shelf at even the best performance shops.
I just hate to see people upgrade in stages, since I did it, and bought springs, then shocks, then sleeves, then better shocks, then a real coil over kit. eventually I spent 3x what I would have if I personally just bit the bullet. Now that being said if you ever do pickup motorsport the next step up is HUGE from a cheap suspension kit, to a racing suspension. you start adding double, triple adjustable and external nitrogen cylinders. things get pricey QUICK... but the cheap kits are perfect for 99% of everybody that does not get a paycheck for their racing.
We used to say around my shop KYB stood for "Keeps You Bouncing"

GR-2® Premium Shocks and Struts are specially designed to provide a smooth, secure ride with excellent control for drivers who are looking for ride comfort and improved handling. With its patented check valve, the GR-2® Premium Shocks and Struts always maintain excellent performance under even the roughest conditions. It also provides comfort and control that is often better than original equipment. GR-2® Premium Shocks and Struts are available for virtually all vehicles on the road today.
KYB used to market a decent product under the "GAB" name but it's been years since I've seen them on the shelf at even the best performance shops.
Last edited by treekiller; Mar 25, 2008 at 06:20 PM.


