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If you really want to get into IT then start out as a computer tech. Whether its on a large companys Help Desk or a small computer store. Once you get the basics there then start making your way up. There is a lot out there to learn and only experience will allow you to eventually get the job that you want (and be able to keep it). Its worked for me.
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exactly dude.. these people with IT degrees.. straight out of college that think they will get a 40-50K job are dreaming in todays market..i have NO formal Lotus training.. no degree... but you dont get to be doing this job where i am not knowing anything... its all about experience.. everyone has to start some where.. and quite frankly..i hire experience over degrees.. cos in my line of work.. you dont learn much about Lotus Notes in college..
that being said.. with equal experience i will take the college person.. hehe.. im not stupid.. but to everyone wanting to get into IT. its not instant gratification.. you gotta work your way up.. and a large helpdesk is a good place to start.. and do a LOT or reading.. and also.. pick a speiclaty..
that being said.. with equal experience i will take the college person.. hehe.. im not stupid.. but to everyone wanting to get into IT. its not instant gratification.. you gotta work your way up.. and a large helpdesk is a good place to start.. and do a LOT or reading.. and also.. pick a speiclaty..
Well Ive got an associate in computer science and an associate in computer programming and am now finishing up my bachelors in computer science possibly with a minor in phyics. Ive been coding in C and VB for a while now (also familiar with RPG COBOL and C++) and I still cant find jack shit. Ive got about 20credit hours left before I finish up my degree and DESPERATELY need to get some work place experience so I can actually be competetive. If any of you guys know a place hiring part-timers for coding or hell even running test scripts Id be very happy.
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Originally posted by WRX
actually your full blown Cisco stuff is still very very tough to get.. the fact is.. a trained monkey can get MCP/MCSE .. i havent ever bothered.. i know what i know.. and i prefer to let my experience tel the tale.. ima Lotus Notes Engineer.. and i dont have my CLP or anything.. but i work int he top team in the largest lotus notes environment in the world.. so experience counts
Originally posted by WRX
actually your full blown Cisco stuff is still very very tough to get.. the fact is.. a trained monkey can get MCP/MCSE .. i havent ever bothered.. i know what i know.. and i prefer to let my experience tel the tale.. ima Lotus Notes Engineer.. and i dont have my CLP or anything.. but i work int he top team in the largest lotus notes environment in the world.. so experience counts
How the hell can you get a 4 year degree in computers. 4 years ago we were running windows 95..... Can college courses actually keep up with the pace of the computer world?
Bleh I am going to try and specialize in security. Very interesting stuff. Firewalls etc.
Bleh I am going to try and specialize in security. Very interesting stuff. Firewalls etc.
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Originally posted by TealTalon
How the hell can you get a 4 year degree in computers. 4 years ago we were running windows 95..... Can college courses actually keep up with the pace of the computer world?
Bleh I am going to try and specialize in security. Very interesting stuff. Firewalls etc.
Originally posted by TealTalon
How the hell can you get a 4 year degree in computers. 4 years ago we were running windows 95..... Can college courses actually keep up with the pace of the computer world?
Bleh I am going to try and specialize in security. Very interesting stuff. Firewalls etc.
The problem with USF is that everything they teach (or used to) is so out-dated. I have an AA in pre-engineering and transferred to USF to major in Computer Engineering. I ended up changing over to Computer Science when electronics class was teaching a capacitor as a calculus function not a piece of electronics. Comp Science classes then focused strictly on software. Which I find extremely boring. I have about 10 classes left should I decide to finish my B.S. degree. Everything else Ive learned has been pretty much for trivia purposes. I havent used one thing from my computer classes in any of my jobs. I wish they had a major in networking because I would definitely switch to that. Because not everyone wants to know how to build a CPU or write an operating system.
Thats what Im saing. I worked with a guy that had a BS degree at USF for Comp Science. I asked him to swap a power supply out of a workstation and he looked at me like I had and arm growing out of my head. WTF good is that? I dunno there is no replacement for experience in any computer field.
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So what Do I do? I repair and Program Restaurant Computer Systems.(like Taco Bell to Houlihans) Could I make more money elsewhere? HELL YEAH! But do I want to? nah. Its not about money its about Job satisfaction. Anybody who knows me knows that my job IS THE SHIT!
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MCSE
CCNA
A+
N+
Compaq Certified Technician
Dell Tier 1 & Tier 2 certified Technician
Hewlett-Packard Certified Warranty Repair Technician
IBM Factory Trained Technician
So what Do I do? I repair and Program Restaurant Computer Systems.(like Taco Bell to Houlihans) Could I make more money elsewhere? HELL YEAH! But do I want to? nah. Its not about money its about Job satisfaction. Anybody who knows me knows that my job IS THE SHIT!
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