defying logic...
My little bitch threw down at dyno day today! 99 hp! John claims it was the britney spears stickers but I think the lack of atf somehow helped it all I know is thats incredibly good for 2 mods...Oh and I hear there was alittle side betting going on? care to mention this?
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yeah we bet that your car wouldnt break 100 hps and i won now pay up you suckas
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Dang.. guys please dont get mad at me and dont think I am flaming because I truly am not..
99hp?? and thats AFTER a few mods? I am sorry that just stuns me! Honda really starts that far in the whole? I know some have more HP but that just absolutely floors me! What do cars like this make stock? Like the non-turbo DSMs?? or Nissans?
holy cow! I dont know if I could start that far behind the 8 ball and not get a feeling of hopelessness. I didnt go the Mustang route because of that same thing. Its like Why start 50 Cubes down to a chevy small block when you dont have too. Takes the avergae Mustang a few grand to catch up to a F-body stock.. thats my main reason in building an F-Body..
start ahead stay ahead.. what does it take to push a 93EX to 500+ HP? is it possible without Power Adders or motor swaps? I must be honest I know very very little about imports..
99hp?? and thats AFTER a few mods? I am sorry that just stuns me! Honda really starts that far in the whole? I know some have more HP but that just absolutely floors me! What do cars like this make stock? Like the non-turbo DSMs?? or Nissans?
holy cow! I dont know if I could start that far behind the 8 ball and not get a feeling of hopelessness. I didnt go the Mustang route because of that same thing. Its like Why start 50 Cubes down to a chevy small block when you dont have too. Takes the avergae Mustang a few grand to catch up to a F-body stock.. thats my main reason in building an F-Body..
start ahead stay ahead.. what does it take to push a 93EX to 500+ HP? is it possible without Power Adders or motor swaps? I must be honest I know very very little about imports..
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Hey robert most 600 motorcycles start out in the neighborhood of 100 horsepower in the hole as well it is about power to weight it would not take HIM 500hp to keep up with a firebird making the same power. I assume it is possible to make 500hp natuarly aspirated although it would prolly have to rev to like damn 17000rpm and cost a shitload of $$ to accomplish this more than doing it with the power adder route. I hope this gets a good discussion going. But if I were in search of crazt fast power I would just buy a used early 90s nothback stang throw some headsintake and low comp pistons in it and a damn incon turbo setup and make a perfectly quiet stang be stupid fast.
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Well your gonna have to color me impressed about this.
Jesse knows his car is not fast. He deals with what hes got and I think the 99HP number is funny to him not exciting!
Stock 1.6litre SOHC VTEC Automatics put down somewhere in the neiborhood of 79wheel HP. I was sitting there after you car was strapped down calling HP numbers for fun. I did a pretty good job with all of the other cars but I called 79-82wheel HP on your car because the tranny is so fragged and the motor is tired.
Your little trooper car sure surprised me!
....and about Honda starting us in the hole: Hell Hondas arent meant to be sports cars - and if we really want them to be quick (or someday *FAST*) we sure as shit yank out that motor! Yeah its about power to wieght but 99HP:2600+ lbs is not that great!


GOOD JOB JESSE!
Jesse knows his car is not fast. He deals with what hes got and I think the 99HP number is funny to him not exciting!

Stock 1.6litre SOHC VTEC Automatics put down somewhere in the neiborhood of 79wheel HP. I was sitting there after you car was strapped down calling HP numbers for fun. I did a pretty good job with all of the other cars but I called 79-82wheel HP on your car because the tranny is so fragged and the motor is tired.
Your little trooper car sure surprised me!

....and about Honda starting us in the hole: Hell Hondas arent meant to be sports cars - and if we really want them to be quick (or someday *FAST*) we sure as shit yank out that motor! Yeah its about power to wieght but 99HP:2600+ lbs is not that great!



GOOD JOB JESSE!
yeah I understand power-to-weight. My car was 3640 lbs. which is probably scary to a honda guy. I doubt a 100hp would even get that barge rolling. It is down to 3040 now and in the process it dropped half a second in ET due to it.
Granted I am not in the market to buy an import not even as a project car but I am not as hostile as I used to be towards them. I have grown to respect the DSM guys and their turbo cars. The motors arent much to talk about N/A but with the right tuning and Turbo work they can run really respectable.
I appreciate that you guys didnt think I was being an ass I suppose I am trying to figure it all out. I used to discount it all as being a big joke but it is becoming obvious that many people are into it now. I dont buy the whole I dont have much money so I had to get a beater Honda and build it story tho I have seen some of the prices you guys pay for parts and it freaked me out! I am more likely to believe that for whatever reason someone WANTED to mod a Honda/DSM/Nissan and went from there. I am not a stang guy but its hard to argue the logic of getting an older Fox body car cleaning up the motor and putting a bottle on it. QUick reliable HP for extremely cheap.
I am going to have to just come out one night and hang with you guys and have you show me around a bit and get a look at some of the exceptional cars and have someone explain to me WHY they are exceptional. I am truly ignorant about imports in general I know there are some fast ones and all but my persoanl experince hasnt been good.
hehhe took a year for me to even be willing to discuss the subject objectively
Just a dumb old redneck our attitudes die hard
Granted I am not in the market to buy an import not even as a project car but I am not as hostile as I used to be towards them. I have grown to respect the DSM guys and their turbo cars. The motors arent much to talk about N/A but with the right tuning and Turbo work they can run really respectable.
I appreciate that you guys didnt think I was being an ass I suppose I am trying to figure it all out. I used to discount it all as being a big joke but it is becoming obvious that many people are into it now. I dont buy the whole I dont have much money so I had to get a beater Honda and build it story tho I have seen some of the prices you guys pay for parts and it freaked me out! I am more likely to believe that for whatever reason someone WANTED to mod a Honda/DSM/Nissan and went from there. I am not a stang guy but its hard to argue the logic of getting an older Fox body car cleaning up the motor and putting a bottle on it. QUick reliable HP for extremely cheap.
I am going to have to just come out one night and hang with you guys and have you show me around a bit and get a look at some of the exceptional cars and have someone explain to me WHY they are exceptional. I am truly ignorant about imports in general I know there are some fast ones and all but my persoanl experince hasnt been good.
hehhe took a year for me to even be willing to discuss the subject objectively
Just a dumb old redneck our attitudes die hard
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350 cu.in. LT1 V8 from a 96 Camaro
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Originally posted by BackinBlack
Honda really starts that far in the whole?
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Honda really starts that far in the whole?
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Originally posted by BackinBlack
Granted I am not in the market to buy an import not even as a project car but I am not as hostile as I used to be towards them.
Originally posted by BackinBlack
Granted I am not in the market to buy an import not even as a project car but I am not as hostile as I used to be towards them.
I have no problem with my car bieng slow. I have come to terms with it and now me and the civic lead a productive life. I found it really funny that I didnt break the century mark becuase I have had a car with double if not more than what i have now.
Denise- I was suprised..I expected 79 too...Jeff geussed 88 but the teal terro proved him worng. All I need to do is figure out wht that spike is from...
Robert- thanks for keeping this a mature discussion and not youre f-ing slow hondas suck I understand your points about starting from the back..I dunno maybe some people like to be the underdogs. I dont tho Id go the route with the 5.0 if I had the opportunity. This is just the college car and Im just modding becuase Im a big car nut. Im sur eyou understand
Denise- I was suprised..I expected 79 too...Jeff geussed 88 but the teal terro proved him worng. All I need to do is figure out wht that spike is from...
Robert- thanks for keeping this a mature discussion and not youre f-ing slow hondas suck I understand your points about starting from the back..I dunno maybe some people like to be the underdogs. I dont tho Id go the route with the 5.0 if I had the opportunity. This is just the college car and Im just modding becuase Im a big car nut. Im sur eyou understand
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I am going to have to just come out one night and hang with you guys and have you show me around a bit and get a look at some of the exceptional cars and have someone explain to me WHY they are exceptional
Originally posted by BackinBlack
I am going to have to just come out one night and hang with you guys and have you show me around a bit and get a look at some of the exceptional cars and have someone explain to me WHY they are exceptional
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