water as fuel
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Chicken strips? I see no grocies in that pic
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Idk much about electrochemistry but from a pure spliting perspective
say you have 1 liter of water. that's about 1kilo of water at room temperature. 18 grams per mole, 1kilo has 55.55 moles of water. 55.55moles of H2, 27.2 moles of O2. not an ideal gas, but lets pretend. so V=nrt/P
665.4 Liters of O2
1358.977 liters of H2
of potential in a perfect system from a single liter of water. tote around a few liters on a system that pumps out 30-50 liters an hour to supplement the oxygen in the normal air intake and throwing some H2 in there...the mixture of which burns great at internal combustion temperatures... you cant tell me that it wont give you better milage.
say you have 1 liter of water. that's about 1kilo of water at room temperature. 18 grams per mole, 1kilo has 55.55 moles of water. 55.55moles of H2, 27.2 moles of O2. not an ideal gas, but lets pretend. so V=nrt/P
665.4 Liters of O2
1358.977 liters of H2
of potential in a perfect system from a single liter of water. tote around a few liters on a system that pumps out 30-50 liters an hour to supplement the oxygen in the normal air intake and throwing some H2 in there...the mixture of which burns great at internal combustion temperatures... you cant tell me that it wont give you better milage.
but you arnt doint that... I just don't believe you can build someone at home for 20$ stick it in a bottle of water under your hood and get anything usful out of it. do you even understand how much air your motor sucks in per min? just throwing a number out because every motor is different but say 600 cubic feel of air per min. the tiny amount your making, my guess would be a few bubbles per min or less than 1 cfm at say a max of 15amps. which is the most I'd really want to add to my alt for something that's running 100% of the time. just won't do anything.
I'm not saying you guys shouldn't enjoy building it and playing with it. since its cheap. but I don't believe it will help at all.
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The internal combustion engine is way too inefficient. As much as I love it, it needs to be done away with. I think the future is in electricity and electric motors because there are so many possibilities for power, uses, and changability.
from the little i know about it, the speed controllers are holding them back. we can build fast shit with electric motors but the controllers can't handle the current flow.
also if you think internal combustion engines are to far behind, check out the battery tech. you'd have to carry like 1000 lbs of the best batterys around, just to get to work in something like a normal sized suv or truck... where money is being put into research. its also still being put into the internal combustion engine. so with things like direct injection and all the new tech you will see in a few years, plus every new car or truck seems to weighe 4000lbs plus. i don't see electric cars replacing gas for like the next 10years, if ever.
where you will see them more is added to gas powered suv's. they have the room and the most to gain from the short 50lbft of TQ punch from red light to redlight.
but that also means the price of them will keep going up, as will maint and they will weigh more and more.
its loose loose right now. gas prices needed to hold out for another 5 to 10 years and it wouldn't be hurting us so much. of course the oil company's see all the new stuff coming and are cashing in now big time.
whats sad really, is they used to sell cheap little geo metro's that got 50mpg around town, back then gas was cheap and no one wanted them. now the hybrids don't even get that and cost 3 times what a geo did. the sad... even that gay little smart car only gets like 30mpg and its $20k ish.
blah... scooters ftw, oh wait... we cant have the good 180cc 2 stroke ones here that are fast as shit.
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BMW has some good technology. they have a car that runs off of hydrogen (hydrogen fuel cell car) and it produces water as an exhaust. its basically the same technology that is used in the space shuttle but I just dont see us going to using water for fuel.
like previously stated (by me) we dont have enough water to meet the demands of the world. yeah, yeah, yeah the earth is made up of 78% water
like previously stated (by me) we dont have enough water to meet the demands of the world. yeah, yeah, yeah the earth is made up of 78% water
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'04 GSXR 750
I'm so far behind, I think I'm first
need tires (take offs)? PM me
need a deal on a track day? PM me
disclaimer: I sell used tires (take-offs), these tires have been used at Jennings, Homestead, etc. (road courses for those that dont know) therefor these tires are more used up on the sides than in the middle,
GM has a Hydrogen car also and it'll be more use full then a BMW
GM - Technology - Fuel Efficient Car - Fuel Economy Car - Fuel Cell Car
GM - Technology - Fuel Efficient Car - Fuel Economy Car - Fuel Cell Car
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Keith F.A.S.T. Riverview FL
'06 MazdaSpeed6
'91 GMC Syclone #2173 '92 GMC Typhoon #1191
'04 GMC Sierra 2500SLE CC/SB Quadrasteer
'75 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds
'84 Hurst/Olds '86 Pontiac 2+2
'53 Buick Super
'95 Seadoo XP '97 Seadoo SPX
http://www.syty.net
http://www.riverviewforums.com
Honda has a new Hydrogen fuel cell car also. It will only be sold here in the states in parts of california where you can fill the car with hydrogen.
Honda FCX Clarity - Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle - Official Web Site
Honda FCX Clarity - Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle - Official Web Site
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Tell me about it. Sometimes i get this abrasion just under the head, liek a friction rash. All day it will feel like there is a Mexican midget in my boxers licking it with a cats tongue.
Clean water is scarce, and diminishing. Water can be desalinized or made from hydrogen and oxygen, but is very inefficient and expensive. Hybrids and hydrogen cars are cool and a step in the right direction, but it just won't work. I think electricity is the only way to go...


