water as fuel
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Keith F.A.S.T. Riverview FL
'06 MazdaSpeed6
'91 GMC Syclone #2173 '92 GMC Typhoon #1191
'04 GMC Sierra 2500SLE CC/SB Quadrasteer
'75 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds
'84 Hurst/Olds '86 Pontiac 2+2
'53 Buick Super
'95 Seadoo XP '97 Seadoo SPX
http://www.syty.net
http://www.riverviewforums.com
I knew a scientist who actually made a similar system work. I watched his Camaro SS run on it... very f'ing cool... Figuratively and literally. The fuel actually burns cooler, thus reducing operating temperature. It's only byproducst were water and trace amounts of oxygen, hyrogen, & carbon. It was not yet drivable, but sounded as though it had as much power as gasoline. When I last spoke to him, he was trying to raise a significant amount of money to work out some kinks with safe containment and consumable carbon tips.
After seeing how it works and was engineered, the link above is similar but has some key differences that will probably prevent it from working.
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It is all over the web. Just do a search for Hydrogen Generator and see how many hits you get on it and the number of rednecks blowing up water botles with hydrogen. I went to www.water4gas.com also try this guy out he will help anyone that eamils him for free. http://www.smacksboosters.110mb.com/ I just helped a freind put together a hydrogen generator and it will be tested on a truck soon. Making hydrogen is easy geting the computer on your car/truck to understand it needs less gas is the issue. Works best on a carbureted vehicle. Technology has been around for 90 years. Got a guy at work that hooked it into his car, still waiting to hear his gas savings if any.
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Originally Posted by Treysdad
Tell me about it. Sometimes i get this abrasion just under the head, liek a friction rash. All day it will feel like there is a Mexican midget in my boxers licking it with a cats tongue.
yeah turbokaw, i was just thinking how they are gonna "fool" the computer into putting less gas into the manifold. the way i see it, it needs to dump less gas. also im not sure how the oxgyen sensors are gonna react to it.
it would be really cool to get this working on a car. sounds like a headache but with this gas prices nowadays, i am willing to try it.
it would be really cool to get this working on a car. sounds like a headache but with this gas prices nowadays, i am willing to try it.
here are some links...
YouTube - Gas Prices Killing You???
YouTube - Browns Gas Prototype - The Parts And The Workings
YouTube - Browns Gas Generators
check this out... salt water fuel
YouTube - Salt Water Fuel
lawn mower running on 80 percent water
YouTube - Water fuel .
stan meyer RIP. inventor of waterpowered car
YouTube - Stan Meyer - Water Fuel Cell
paul pantone's invention ( car running on it.)
YouTube - HHO GAS RESPECT TO PAUL PANTONE WHO IS IN PRISON
here is that guy from clearwater (KLEIN)
YouTube - "Car Runs On Water"
YouTube - Gas Prices Killing You???
YouTube - Browns Gas Prototype - The Parts And The Workings
YouTube - Browns Gas Generators
check this out... salt water fuel

YouTube - Salt Water Fuel
lawn mower running on 80 percent water
YouTube - Water fuel .
stan meyer RIP. inventor of waterpowered car
YouTube - Stan Meyer - Water Fuel Cell
paul pantone's invention ( car running on it.)
YouTube - HHO GAS RESPECT TO PAUL PANTONE WHO IS IN PRISON
here is that guy from clearwater (KLEIN)
YouTube - "Car Runs On Water"
As far as tuning out some fuel, couldn't you use something as simple as an S-AFC-type device to solve that problem?
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yeah turbokaw, i was just thinking how they are gonna "fool" the computer into putting less gas into the manifold. the way i see it, it needs to dump less gas. also im not sure how the oxgyen sensors are gonna react to it.
it would be really cool to get this working on a car. sounds like a headache but with this gas prices nowadays, i am willing to try it.
it would be really cool to get this working on a car. sounds like a headache but with this gas prices nowadays, i am willing to try it.
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If you can Turn you are not going Fast Enough!
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If you can Turn you are not going Fast Enough!
Originally Posted by Raybo
I'm not a loser, I'm just incarcerated.
Originally Posted by Treysdad
Tell me about it. Sometimes i get this abrasion just under the head, liek a friction rash. All day it will feel like there is a Mexican midget in my boxers licking it with a cats tongue.
there is no way this could do anything guys...
Hydrogen is what your making, and for a car to run off from that, it needs a shit ton of it and compressed to like 5000psi in a tank and even then it pretty much blows as a car fuel. it just doesn't have the btu per pound of weight you have to carry around vr gas... even at 4$ a gal.
as for the little bit you are releasing from a jar of water, and sucked into your intake. I just don't believe it will even cover for the 10 to 20amps your alt has to put out extra.
if it did somehow work, I could easily tune for the extra since I have all the tuning programs for my car and a wide band for it. wouldn't be any harder than tuning for e85 or something. which we really really need to hurry up and get around here. think race gas for cheap at your local pump. even thou it takes almost 2xs as much of it was gas lol. it makes big power then built and tuned for.
now if you built some huge solar powered setup for your house, some how collected it and could use it to fill a real hydrogen tank and build a fuel system for your car to run off from it. that may almost work, but again it would take months to fill a tank and solar panals are big $ and just running the setup off your home electric would prob run your electric bill up higher than the gas savings.
Hydrogen is what your making, and for a car to run off from that, it needs a shit ton of it and compressed to like 5000psi in a tank and even then it pretty much blows as a car fuel. it just doesn't have the btu per pound of weight you have to carry around vr gas... even at 4$ a gal.
as for the little bit you are releasing from a jar of water, and sucked into your intake. I just don't believe it will even cover for the 10 to 20amps your alt has to put out extra.
if it did somehow work, I could easily tune for the extra since I have all the tuning programs for my car and a wide band for it. wouldn't be any harder than tuning for e85 or something. which we really really need to hurry up and get around here. think race gas for cheap at your local pump. even thou it takes almost 2xs as much of it was gas lol. it makes big power then built and tuned for.
now if you built some huge solar powered setup for your house, some how collected it and could use it to fill a real hydrogen tank and build a fuel system for your car to run off from it. that may almost work, but again it would take months to fill a tank and solar panals are big $ and just running the setup off your home electric would prob run your electric bill up higher than the gas savings.
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as for the little bit you are releasing from a jar of water, and sucked into your intake.
say you have 1 liter of water. that's about 1kilo of water at room temperature. 18 grams per mole, 1kilo has 55.55 moles of water. 55.55moles of H2, 27.2 moles of O2. not an ideal gas, but lets pretend. so V=nrt/P
665.4 Liters of O2
1358.977 liters of H2
of potential in a perfect system from a single liter of water. tote around a few liters on a system that pumps out 30-50 liters an hour to supplement the oxygen in the normal air intake and throwing some H2 in there...the mixture of which burns great at internal combustion temperatures... you cant tell me that it wont give you better milage.
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