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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wsideshow
He did it in a safe area.I am not mad at him.90% of you have all done something retarded on the streets so stfu and stop bashing.Sux for all the dead,but they all hopped in that car for a speed rush on an airport strip.


We take our bikes past that on the streets.Don't bash the kid for doing it on a strip instead of the streets.

On another note I hope his dad feels great cause 500hp is a bit much for a kid,but whatever.
+1 i love how people act like they NEVER do anything wrong and especially people on bikes, im 99% sure all the bikes on this site have broken the speed limit more then once just because you havent died or wont admit it doesnt mean it didnt happen or make it right
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Not saying I never do anything wrong here. But he did put others in danger. The 4 people that died in the car with him. He put them in danger. Regardless if they volunteered to get into the car on their own or not. He put all lives inside of the car in danger. I dont see it as being harsh at all. The douche bag got exactly what he deserves. You play with fire long enough, youre bound to get burnt. Point is.....he knew the consciquences of his actions before he even put the car in gear. Knowing that, he still took said car to said airstrip and killed himself and his friends. One word.........TOOL!!!!!! Just my 2 cents. Flame on!
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by efftwobe
u fucking people are sick... how can you say hes a scum bag this and that??? he did this shit on a fucking private airport he didnt go down i4 or i275 going 140-170 like most of us here have done...
Well the scumbag part probably started the second he piled 4 other teenagers into his car and said....lets go 180 MPH in a car down this runway (REGARDLESS IF THEY BROUGHT IT UP OR WERE EGGING IT ON)


Originally Posted by efftwobe
^+1 i dont understand wtf you guys are trying to prove... ya he did something fucking stupid but like i said before atleast he didnt put anyone elses life on the line by doing it in a public area
4 people werent enough?

Well it must be a "public" area if some random kid in an M5 can just mozey on in...and due to the circumstances id be willing to bet that was his first time ON said runway...


Originally Posted by efftwobe
But i guess you all ride correctly never lifted that front wheel off the ground and never ever sped...
No ones trying to PROVE anything howd ya come up with this? And please try to explain to me how doing a wheelie or speeding has anything to do with the PRE 15 seconds before this crash...

I "speed" every day....i dont "speed" 180 mph down a runway at night with 4 kids in my car.

Hes a scumbag in a million ways
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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what does it all matter? he's dead. along with 4 others.


and that poor sexy brand new m5 is a big wad of metal. i deserved that car way more! i'd shoot anyone who got within a 10 foot radius of it! and i certainly wouldn't have wrapped it around a tree...
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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This incident has caused quit a stir both locally and nationally. I live in Ocala and am familiar with the story. Some of my students knew the gentlemen who died.

I looked up the criminal records of the five men who died in the crash. All of them have had at least one, if not more, speeding tickets in their lives. Keep in mind that the oldest man was 20. The driver had two speeding tickets, and his most recent ticket, earned just about a week ago, was for failure to stop at a stop sign.

To everyone who says that these were good kids: Probably, but none of them was totally innocent, either. They all knew what they were doing out there. They liked going fast and were probably psyched at having access to such a famously powerful automobile.

To everyone who says that these kids were dumbasses: Not entirely. They were smart enough to stay off public roads while performing high-speed maneuvers. This shows that they were concerned about not endangering other motorists as well as trying to avoid attention from police.

What went wrong?

What went wrong is a question none of us can ever truly answer, but seeing as I have been a teenager and young adult, I feel I am aptly suited for speculating. As young adults, my friend and I would sneak his father's Taurus SHO out in the middle of the night and go looking for street races. Luckily, we never crashed. Could it have happened? Absolutely. Could we have died? Absolutely. Did we ever take it out to a deserted stretch of road to see what it could do? Absolutely. We had it up to 140 mph--in the MFing RAIN. Talk about dumbass moves. Well, we lived and those poor bastards didn't. Why?

Miscalculation.

Simple error in the wrong part of the equation equals huge, monster error in the end.

The driver may have become disoriented while making several passes up and down the strip, forgetting which way he was headed. The south end has a 40-foot tall concrete burm that deflects jet noise up into the air during power up for take-off.

That wall would have been illuminated by headlights and served as an indicator as to when to brake.

The north end has no such wall.

If the driver thought he was going south, but in reality was really traveling north, he would have been looking for the wall as a sign of when to brake. He would not have seen a wall and MISTOOK the lack of seeing the wall as an indicator that he had more room. Thus, he would not have had the need to brake. However, he was really traveling north and should not have expected to see the wall, using another indicator of when to brake.

How could he get disoriented? This is a private airstrip out in the middle of nowhere. There are some houses around, but it is mostly pitch-black dark out there at night. The airstrip was recently paved, meaning that any distinguishing marks or cracks were eliminated. There are no lights on that strip. He didn't live there and may have only driven on the airstrip during the daytime. Everything looks different at night.

My guess as to why they crashed is this:

The driver simply became disoriented, which led to a miscalculation of the amount of road left ahead of the vehicle. I base this on the above argument and the fact that tire marks at the end of the airstrip show panic-braking--an obvious sign that the vehicle was not supposed to have as much speed at that point as it really did.

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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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a lot of people's envy is showing...
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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+1 he doesn't sound like a scumbag to me, but a little too over confident on how he drives (with 2 years of experience)...
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Hmmmm....almost makes me regret having an 04 gsxr750 and a 2002 camaro z28 on the spray when i was 16-20.....wait no it doesn't because I could handle it or maybe I'm just lucky enough to not have made that big of a mistake shit happens....worse shit just happened to this kid and his friends

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Geez, after seeing that video clip I finally understand just how big of a mistake that kid made. Did you see the size of that burm he jumped!?! He must have still been going over 100mph when he ran out of road. That wasn't like woops, I missed my brake point, it was like woops, I forgot this car cannot fly!

Still tragic that they had to die over a mistake, but mistakes that big are normally your last.
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