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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pnkpnthr2133
gag me with the patriotism. by no means am i against it but...it's like too much sugar, give me a stomach ache
Freedom. One word but yet countless words could never capture it’s true meaning or power.

“For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know.”


I read that once and it couldn’t be more true. It’s not the average American’s fault that he or she is “blind and deaf” to the taste of freedom. Most American’s are born into their God given right so it is all they ever know. I was once one of them. I would even dare to say that it isn’t surprising that they take for granted what they have had all their life. My experiences in the military however opened my eyes to the truth.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cecil
wow....

Don't even know where to begin....

I guess I have two questions:

1 - Where do you get your information from (though it is entirely inaccurate, it is somewhat entertaining )?

2 - If we are such the laughing stock's of the world....Why does everyone else risk life and limb to come to good ole US of A?


well he prob has it wrong for this time, but its fact that pearl harbor was known about and let happen so we could enter the war. no good reason to think our gov is any better now than then.... if anything, i'd say its more corrupt now then back then

and really only people from the bottom of the 3rd world list, risk life and limb to get here. yeah so we are better than living there, oh wow, I'm not impressed and not one of them wants to stay forever, just get in, make some money and go back home to their families. hell the only reason they can come here and can make that money is because this country is full of us lazy fucks that won't even cut our own grass. if they could jump a fence or float a 56 chevy pickup on 4 empty barrels to canada, they'd do that too.


now I haven't went out to countries and do polling or anything but, I have a feeling that we are not the greatest thing since sliced bread that we want to think we are, in their eyes.
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Originally Posted by Cecil
Yeah, this old man has spent a number of years abroad and traveled to nearly 40 countries.... seen the best and worst of people from all walks of life.

Say what you will, but there is no place better than the USA.



and where this may be true.. there's no reason to bury your head in the sand and over look what does happen to be wrong and try to fix them to make it better.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Mom,

Be my voice. I want this message heard. It is mine and my platoon’s to the country. A man I know lost his legs the other night. He is in another company in our batallion. I can no longer be silent after watching the sacrifices made by Iraqis and Americans everyday.Send it to a congressman if you have to. Send it to FOX news if you have to. Let this message be heard please…

My fellow Americans, I have a task for those with the courage and fortitude to take it. I have a message that needs not fall on deaf ears. A vision the blind need to see. I am not a political man nor one with great wisdom. I am just a soldier who finds himself helping rebuild a country that he helped liberate a couple years ago.

I have watched on television how the American public questions why their mothers, fathers, brothers, and sisters are fighting and dying in a country 9000 miles away from their own soil. Take the word of a soldier, for that is all I am, that our cause is a noble one. The reason we are here is one worth fighting for. A cause that has been the most costly and sought after cause in our small span of existence on our little planet. Bought in blood and paid for by those brave enough to give the ultimate sacrifice to obtain it. A right that is given to every man, woman, and child I believe by God. I am talking of freedom.

Freedom. One word but yet countless words could never capture it’s true meaning or power. “For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know.” I read that once and it couldn’t be more true. It’s not the average American’s fault that he or she is “blind and deaf” to the taste of freedom. Most American’s are born into their God given right so it is all they ever know. I was once one of them. I would even dare to say that it isn’t surprising that they take for granted what they have had all their life. My experiences in the military however opened my eyes to the truth.

Ironically you will find the biggest outcries of opposition to our cause from those who have had no military experience and haven’t had to fight for freedom. I challenge all of those who are daring enough to question such a noble cause to come here for just a month and see it first hand. I have a feeling that many voices would be silenced.

I watched Cindy Sheehan sit on the President’s lawn and say that America isn’t worth dying for. Later she corrected herself and said Iraq isn’t worth dying for. She badmouthed all that her son had fought and died for. I bet he is rolling over in his grave.

Ladies and gentleman I ask you this. What if you lived in a country that wasn’t free? What if someone told you when you could have heat, electricity, and water? What if you had no sewage systems so human waste flowed into the streets? What if someone would kill you for bad-mouthing your government? What if you weren’t allowed to watch TV, connect to the internet, or have cell phones unless under extreme censorship? What if you couldn’t put shoes on your child’s feet?

You need not to have a great understanding of the world but rather common sense to realize that it is our duty as HUMAN BEINGS to free the oppressed. If you lived that way would you not want someone to help you????
The Iraqi’s pour into the streets to wave at us and when we liberated the cities during the war they gathered in the thousands to cheer, hug and kiss us. It was what the soldier’s in WW2 experienced, yet no one questioned their cause!! Saddam was no better than Hitler! He tortured and killed thousands of innocent people. We are heroes over here, yet American’s badmouth our President for having us here.

Every police station here has a dozen or more memorials for officers that were murdered trying to ensure that their people live free. These are husbands, fathers, and sons killed every day. What if it were your country? What would your choice be? Everything we fight for is worth the blood that may be shed. The media never reports the true HEROISM I witness everyday in the Iraqi’s. Yes there are bad one’s here, but I assure you they are a minuscule percent. Yet they are a number big enough to cause worry in this country’s future.

I have watched brave souls give their all and lose thier lives and limbs for this cause. I will no longer stand silent and let the “deaf and blind” be the only voice shouting. Stonewall Jackson once said, “All that I have, all that I am is at the service of the country.” For these brave souls who gave the ultimate sacrifice, including your son Cindy Sheehan, I will shout till I can no longer. These men and women are heroes. Their spirit lives on in their military and they will never be forgotten. They did not die in vain but rather for a cause that is larger than all of us.

My fellow countrymen and women, we are not overseas for our country alone but also another. We are here to spread democracy and freedom to those who KNOW the true taste of it because they fight for it everyday. You can see the desire in their eyes and I am honored to fight alongside them as an Infantryman in the 101st Airborne.

Freedom is not free, but yet it is everyone’s right to have. Ironic isn’t it? That is why we are here. Though you will always have the skeptics, I know that most of our military will agree with this message. Please, at the request of this soldier spread this message to all you know. We are in Operation Iraqi Freedom and that is our goal. It is a cause that I and thousands of others stand ready to pay the ultimate sacrifice for because, Cindy Sheehan, freedom is worth dying for, no matter what country it is! And after the world is free only then can we hope to have peace.


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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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Here's one of my favorite for you armchair quarterbacks....

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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The last time we had to "fight for freedom" was in World war 2.


Our freedoms have not been in more jeopardy since Bush signed the patriot act.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Fauropitotto
The last time we had to "fight for freedom" was in World war 2.


Our freedoms have not been in more jeopardy since Bush signed the patriot act.
...wow...
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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I find it amazing you still truely believe the propaganda.

Utterly baffling.

I think this needs to be moved to another area. Political spits isnt really something a new bike rider cares about.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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hey man i watched that youtube video 'loose change'

I BELIEVED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT, FUCK AMERICA! IT WAS REALLY WELL EDITED SO IT MUST BE TRUE! THE BUSH'S ARE IN BED WITH THE OIL COMPANIES! OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!11111111111111111one!!1ele ven
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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dude, i don't even wanna get started into saying anything more than i have, cause i don't really wanna piss cecil off. I know hes gung-hoe military and i respect his opinions.

I will apologize to anyone i offended when i stated my case. I just want to say, i was in the army, for a short period of time and met some interesting people. One of whom was a ex-brit solider. Who had traviled the world as well. He told me sreight up that our army was a joke. Also i have seen two companys full of soliders fighting each other like a bunch of drunk retards on the front lawn of charley company in AIT at Ft. Lee VA, Talked to people i could not even hold a conversation with they where so stupid, and told me they got waivers to join the army... they had failed the mental tests etc etc. Just had tons of great examples displayed to me showing me just how fucked our military is.
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