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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:14 AM
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lately i have been asking myself...how many of these fatal biker down threads were actually caused by rider error as opposed to the bike malfuctioning? when somebody goes down there is a good chance it could have been one of these 2 but we usually rule out the bike malfunctioning and jump to conclusions saying it was rider error. wouldnt it suck if you went down cuz of the bike and everyone assumed it was your fault? thoughts?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:20 AM
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well, preventative maintenance will keep malfunctionings from happening. Its just hard to believe that the bike malfucntioned when someone hits a guardrail at excessive speeds, or t-bones a car.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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what if the bike wouldnt turn, or the brakes went out? i recently heard of somebody on a gixxer 1000 that ate shit cuz one of the spokes on the front rim broke. i bet if that person wouldnt have pulled through, it would have been ruled out as rider error w/ these exact words "he lost control".
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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my friends dad has a brand new harley one day while riding he hit the back brake to slow down for a corner as he entered the corner and released the brake the back tire slid out, chuck fell off the bike whacked his head with no helmut on and now has mild brain damage all at around 15-20mph.

turned out the valve that lets the brake fluid go back to release pressure on the rear disc got stuck and the back brake locked the tire up right as he was leaning into the corner, so yes this stuff does happen.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bigB
my friends dad has a brand new harley
Enough said..............
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 954RR
Enough said..............
are you trying to say it happened cuz it was a harley or are you trying to say its not true because it was "his friends dad"?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Bikes are relatively simple machines... I would venture to say that the ratio of rider vs. mechanical error is grossly skewed towards rider error.

Probably 1000 to 1, if not more.

Part of riding is being prepared for the unexpected.... things happen, do your best to be "heads-up"... we all crash from time to time... and sometimes, very bad things happen.

Lessen the likelihood of this happening by staying up on your maintenance, wearing gear, and riding hyper-defensively.

Be Safe.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cecil
Bikes are relatively simple machines... I would venture to say that the ratio of rider vs. mechanical error is grossly skewed towards rider error.

Probably 1000 to 1, if not more.

Part of riding is being prepared for the unexpected.... things happen, do your best to be "heads-up"... we all crash from time to time... and sometimes, very bad things happen.

Lessen the likelihood of this happening by staying up on your maintenance, wearing gear, and riding hyper-defensively.

Be Safe.

Well said
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Bikes are also designed to run within certain limitations. I'm sure very little testing has been done on a bike to make it 100% reliable at 120mph and/or up on just the back wheel. By speeding and/or stunting, you take all risks involved, including bike failure. I've blown a tire out while riding before, but if I was going a buck fi'teen, I wouldn't be here to post about it, you know?
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Originally Posted by Frankie Boy
Bikes are also designed to run within certain limitations. I'm sure very little testing has been done on a bike to make it 100% reliable at 120mph and/or up on just the back wheel. By speeding and/or stunting, you take all risks involved, including bike failure. I've blown a tire out while riding before, but if I was going a buck fi'teen, I wouldn't be here to post about it, you know?

well as for sportbikes, they are build for laping race tracks.... plain and simple. so yeah the brakes are built for 120mph plus stops over and over again...

now as far as stunts... no, and a lot do starve for oil and blow up when wheelied for a long time. because they were not built with this in mind but the same SV will lap a race track all day long..


just know the type of bike your riding and what it was ment for.



and wear helmets people...wtf, are they really that bad to wear while on a harley? hell i can't stand to ride without ear plugs and my helmet. harleys have to be louder then my bike...

just seems really uncalled for.
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