And slow bikes.

 

Plus, its not possible to get optimum performance through out the rpm range without the feedback from sensors and a computer looking for load, TP, rpms, etc...

 

yes i know all the up sides to fi. that's why my car has a stand alone dfi system on it......


but with that said the bikes I've ridden with the choppie ass on off shit of the fi bikes you can keep. now if its because the factoy can't tune that out. its not my fault, these are stock bikes. I'd hate to deal with that shit at full lean

 

Yea some bikes have that. From what ive been told, its because of emissions they have to meet. But its not hard to eliminate with a custom map or sometimes just a TRE does it.

 

i don't like that tre thing either......


i think it cause more probs than it solves

 

I dont either really, but mines not choppy with a custom map tho.

 

yeah i know what your saying... it can be tuned out but carbs run pretty good with a fresh custom tune too.


i know there're old school and can be a pain in the ass to sync but i'm just saying carbs arn't the end of the world. fi still has issues to deal with...

the car world has fi way more sorted out...lol

 

Are you saying the true is same for cars? As far as the carbs making them slower? If so, I TOTALLY disagree with you. Bikes are more complicated because you are dealing with more carbs, but on a car carbs DO NOT go slower than efi. I think it has alot to do with the application and what you are planning om doing with it.

 

me? i was saying drivability is more sorted out on FI cars, i think bikes need to work on that.


of course n/a for n/a a carb can make the same power as efi but you will still have to keep up with changing temps and things like that to keep the carb making the same power.


as far as hp on bikes, i think in a drag setup. a set of flat slids would make the same power if not better than efi. but then you get back to having to tune it thru out the day. where efi you wouldn't

 

Yea im not saying carbs are bad. And yes, bikes FI is more primitive than cars FI. But i would take FI over carbs any day of the week. Thats all. Others can make their own call on what they prefer. I was just giving my 2 cents for what its worth. It dont matter to me tho.....ps..John, let me know when you want your tool back...I havent forgot..