Yep, I have life insurance... But seriously... Don't try and persuade them that it isn't dangerous because it is quite simply is. You can however, be as responsible as possible and take all precautions to make it as safe as possible. If you can show your parents that you are mature about this and admit that it is dangerous (even to yourself) then the better prepared you will be in case something goes wrong.

 

actually....

I am in this situation right now.
Lets copy and paste my convos!


*For the incompetent
This is an email conversation between me and my mother, I did not include emails that led up to this. If you have difficult reading books with allot of words skip over this post.

"YEAH, VROOOMMM, ACHOOOO, ACHOOOO, I showed your e-mail (for laughs) to my
co-worker whom just arrived, her dad is a Harley guy, his best friend died
last night!!! Bike accident. Rick, what can I say, if ever you get a
week-end bike so that you can go in the country side, I even buy one for my
self, but city riding, it is deadly, the first person I ever saw dead, was
about 25, handsome guy, just laying there no blood. eyes open looking at the
sky. No! you will not convince me!

Love u lots,
mum"

"I know mom and know all the consequences, remember the world is rich
with photos of all the bike accidents that happen with the addition of
aftermath photos. People are more knowledgable about it to make an
informed decision. I made mine awhile ago.

A harley person dieing tho to be honest gathers no sympathy.
Harley riders are different than sport riders. Harley riders wear T
shirts and flip flops and no helmets. They corner horribly and have a
longer wheelbase for looks which make them more difficult in the lean
of a curve so more prone to quick-fails.
http://ed1.eng.ohio-state.edu/People...JArnold/harley

This is your typical harley riders.
And if you are lucky they are then wearing jeans maybe, or even a half helmet.
Jeans last 8feet of sliding in a fall.

sportriders wear comp leathers full face helmets and better common
sense that they should not be wearing shorts on a bike.

-Rick"

"In Chicago Harley riders are more into the heavy leather $450.00 with the
Harley logo, boots, and yes, helmets, probably because they are baby boomers
and with $$ they can afford the " complete look", with a bit of common
sense.
One of the engineers here belongs to a Veterans Harley group and he is going
to introduce me so that I can go riding with them, awesome!! Geriatric dept
on 2 wheels, it sounds like fun!!! add a couple of drinks, memorable!!
gtg"

"mom, do you know how bad that just sounded.

> on 2 wheels, it sounds like fun!!! add a couple of drinks, memorable!!
">

Sport bikers dont touch a drop.

And harley is Looks, Not performance, There is no harley riders that
where full face helmets, which alone cost 450$ Full leathers are
another 600, gloves 70, boots 120$
It is a different world between the two. They go for looks, sport goes
for actual performance."

"yeah, sounds bad... I hope it feels good, I don't want the wold to zooooom
by me, I will like to have the time to look and not leave my nails stuck on
a stranger's tummy.
And about sport bikers to touch a drop... of water maybe. Go by Jimmy's
Grill downtown Nap. where all these bikes are displayed, and see them dying
of thirst!!!

silly,"

"obviously those that dont follow the code arent a true sport biker.
and are in it for the looks, and they then are degraded all the other
people that od it for looks"



Thats as we leave off for now. Remember, Everyones approach is different, We already went thru cost, insurance, now we are at safety, then we have a few more chapters to go.

 

^that was gay/stupid/non-comprehendable.

 

Yeah, I'm a sport rider and I touch lots of drops....

 

ouch.....
That was a real conversation between me and my mom.


and yes, people do drink, but now would you go admitting to your parents, Sure I plan on drinking and riding!

 

well sorry, but the reason I say that is because it is FULL of FALACIES! To me I read that Harleys are MORE dangerous than the sport bike. Is that what I read correctly? If so, How many Harley guys are being scraped off the road? How many sport riders. Harley guys ages average in the 50's I presume, Sprot bike riders probably around mid 20's. Which group is more mature at riding?

Haha, riding 90mph in the city, doing wheelies, and cornering a 45mph corner at nearly double the speed does NOT exhibit common sense.

 

Well.....

You see the same thing for this applies to in politics, Leave out the "uneccesary" information, Aka the info that will debunk you

For example. A sport bike is better equipted to take fast corners at higher speeds which they typically go. A cruiser going those same speeds is not as well set up.

as of now my current standing is that I will not be doing wheelies or taking corners that hard but I still will be wearing gear.

so in that sense, I, with full gear at an equal speed will be better suited and safer than a cruiser at the same speed minus gear.

Now you are saying that age affects driving? well to an extent it does, but that is stereotyping and saying that everyone thats young is going to be a jackass on a bike. and everyone thats old and on a cruiser wont do anything dumb.

Stereotyping is not a 100%

What I am saying is that, your Typical Cruiser rider in contrast to your typical gixxer rider (based on www.gixxer.com 'stats') in equal situations the cruiser rider is in more danger to do more damage to themselves.

so if you are going to stick to what you are saying then I will quote you on this.
and you said that after "Sport bike rider" therefore. Should we ban all sportbikes based on what you said?

I left out facts, and pushed on others to get my point across for my personal benefit.

 

well i will tell you this, falling down in a corner does not kill people, it simply hurts them. Running into cars is what kills people and this happens when excessive speeds are traveled in semi-congested areas where a driver will assume you are going near the speed limit. They have made up in there mind before even seeing you a pre-determined distance at which he/she will or will not pull out. At the distance they see you they figure its safe because they travel the same road a hundred times a year, however they are not accustumed to someone closing their distance at twice the speed limit.

Kidding and tricking your parents into believing something is one thing, but DO NOT kid YOURSELF or you WILL pay for it dearly.

 

How long of a conversation would it be if you go over EVERY single thing that can possible go wrong or what typically goes wrong.

I used corners as an example because you like to pick apart and analyze every little spec.

As long as you are prepared (like myself) and researched and learn, and continue to be open to learn there is a difference between what they should know and what they shouldnt.
I do not want my mother concerned about how many Gs it takes of force of a hit to the head to make me brain dead.

All I care to express to her is, Yes, Its dangerous, No its not as dangerous because I am self equipping my self with gear and knowledge.

That is all I want her to know and to concentrate on that, and MY personal way of talking with my mother is different than anyone elses, I clearly stated that atleast at the bottom of my post.

 

I told myself I would be responsible with my bike before I got it... Now look at me...

But seriously good luck with it, I think Tyler is trying to make sure that you are truly aware how often we almost eat $hit or see others eat $hit...