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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 03AcuraCLTypeS
I have 2 total 12", 2 total 6x9 2 total 6.5" 1 total tweeters, and 1 MB quarts (my totals died for some reason and i dont have enough time to get them back in b4 the show next weekend)... i have 1 440 watt amp and 2 500 watt amps all professionally tuned and installed... even went as far as putting it on an RTA meter...retail with install is about 6-7K (i didn't pay that but u know), thats the kinda set up it takes to have a truely good qualisy sound system.. i mean i can hear them plucking the guitar strings as they play...thats the kinda stuff it takes to get a competitive sound system... and its still has plenty of bass...so yeah those who spend a shit load of money on crappy speakers b.c they can get 30 of them for the price i paid for mine are dumb..especially if they ever want to compete in any kind of competition.
and what world do u live in that therew are people with 30 subs driving around in??i mean how many 30 sub setups have you seen?? where do you get this number??i think if you would look you would realize alot of these setups are 4 subs.thats about 26 short of 30...and 6-7k on 2 12s and mids and highs??unless your going to win trophies in sound quality,that is KRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapin_honda
once again someone with 2 12s wants to try and say he knows more than the guy with the wall.yess i will be the first to say that rattle happens.but i wont lie like most of you do that dynamt helps it only absorbs sound,and absorbs means less dbs,so why must you sq kids dare say anything about us spl people when we live in two different worlds.very few spl people come on here and point out that sq is not loud,which is true.so why must you hate on us?you guys we live in 2 different worlds dont hate on us,because you dont understand us.

Dynamat absorbs sound and that means less dbs? That's wierd because I can't say I've ever seen a decrease in dbs from any vehicle I've ever installed dynamat. Vibrating panels is the result of lossed decibels. Every vibrating/flexing panel in a vehicle is a source of lossed dBs. Any actual competitor, SQ or SPL, knows this.
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scrapin_honda
once again someone with 2 12s wants to try and say he knows more than the guy with the wall.yess i will be the first to say that rattle happens.but i wont lie like most of you do that dynamt helps it only absorbs sound,and absorbs means less dbs,so why must you sq kids dare say anything about us spl people when we live in two different worlds.very few spl people come on here and point out that sq is not loud,which is true.so why must you hate on us?you guys we live in 2 different worlds dont hate on us,because you dont understand us.
SQ and loudness go hand in hand

SPL is just fart. and annoying me with the boom while im fucking my wife.

thats the world I live in
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Dynamat absorbs sound and that means less dbs? That's wierd because I can't say I've ever seen a decrease in dbs from any vehicle I've ever installed dynamat. Vibrating panels is the result of lossed decibels. Every vibrating/flexing panel in a vehicle is a source of lossed dBs. Any actual competitor, SQ or SPL, knows this.
I couldnt agree more... the bass its louder with the car dynomatted, as well as it sounds better. by the way, were talking about INSIDE the car, outside may be a differant story.. and "you spl guys" obviously dont know to much about car audio, i can promis you that there are clean sounding subs just as loud, if not louder then the garbage you guys have in your cars now..
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Wait A Minute I Want In On This...................
You Dont Know Loud Until You Have Owned A 164+ Db Vechile, Real Spl Competators Set There System To Be The Loudest With The Window/doors Closed (not Real Loud Outside) - Those Rattle Trap Pos Driving Around Dont Deserve To Be Classified As A Spl Car!!!!!!!!!! How About A Annoying Pieces Of Sh**!!
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapin_honda
once again someone with 2 12s wants to try and say he knows more than the guy with the wall.yess i will be the first to say that rattle happens.but i wont lie like most of you do that dynamt helps it only absorbs sound,and absorbs means less dbs,so why must you sq kids dare say anything about us spl people when we live in two different worlds.very few spl people come on here and point out that sq is not loud,which is true.so why must you hate on us?you guys we live in 2 different worlds dont hate on us,because you dont understand us.
To prove my point that he thinks he knows more about this than anyone else, and all just because he has a wall. You act like we care that you have a wall. I know someone that had a wall of 8 of the old school RF subs, in a 90' VW GTI. So does that mean he knows more than you? Cause if he doesn't then i guess no one knows more about car audio than you. So from now on, no one is allowed to answer any technical questions in the Audio HQ cause your wrong. This guy knows the answers to everything.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapin_honda
once again someone with 2 12s wants to try and say he knows more than the guy with the wall.yess i will be the first to say that rattle happens.but i wont lie like most of you do that dynamt helps it only absorbs sound,and absorbs means less dbs,so why must you sq kids dare say anything about us spl people when we live in two different worlds.very few spl people come on here and point out that sq is not loud,which is true.so why must you hate on us?you guys we live in 2 different worlds dont hate on us,because you dont understand us.

I'm sorry dude, but being some kid stuck with some clunker and a bunch of cheap subs in a wall does not make you an "spl guy". The spl guys I know have 10's of thousands of dollars into their vehicles, a boat load of knowledge, and the trophys & awards to prove it. Sure, SQ and SPL are two different worlds, but you live in neither of them.
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TBSpyder
I'm sorry dude, but being some kid stuck with some clunker and a bunch of cheap subs in a wall does not make you an "spl guy". The spl guys I know have 10's of thousands of dollars into their vehicles, a boat load of knowledge, and the trophys & awards to prove it. Sure, SQ and SPL are two different worlds, but you live in neither of them.
ok,lets see yes i have been part of a vehicle that did a 163 with joe casper at sound express on hillsborough.also i was part of a mmats van that we built at sound express that was doing a 168.3 on the meter.so yes i live in a spl world.and my honda is not a clunker,it is very clean,and no a wall doesnt always mean i know more,but it damn sure means im louder than someone jammin out of their trunk.yes i was making fun of the guy who paid $1500 for a 3,000 watt amp.and what spl guys do you know??steve cook??krik from divine sounds??big mike at radioactive who built the green kicker van?Alma Gates who let me a couple of friends get their hands on kicker l7gs,with her name signed on the back?o,or maybe ed or jethro eason who if you dont know of you dont know car audio.But thats ok guys,your right i know nobody.lol
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapin_honda
ok,lets see yes i have been part of a vehicle that did a 163 with joe casper at sound express on hillsborough.also i was part of a mmats van that we built at sound express that was doing a 168.3 on the meter.so yes i live in a spl world.and my honda is not a clunker,it is very clean,and no a wall doesnt always mean i know more,but it damn sure means im louder than someone jammin out of their trunk.yes i was making fun of the guy who paid $1500 for a 3,000 watt amp.and what spl guys do you know??steve cook??krik from divine sounds??big mike at radioactive who built the green kicker van?Alma Gates who let me a couple of friends get their hands on kicker l7gs,with her name signed on the back?o,or maybe ed or jethro eason who if you dont know of you dont know car audio.But thats ok guys,your right i know nobody.lol
You were a part of? What's that mean, you hung around the shop and bugged the installers a couple times a week? I'm sure everyone on this forum could name a bunch of names, and brag about other people's systems. You said you were an "spl guy" though. What are you running? What are you hitting? Are you willing to come out to the next audio meet and back up your babbling?
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TBSpyder
You were a part of? What's that mean, you hung around the shop and bugged the installers a couple times a week? I'm sure everyone on this forum could name a bunch of names, and brag about other people's systems. You said you were an "spl guy" though. What are you running? What are you hitting? Are you willing to come out to the next audio meet and back up your babbling?
ACTUALLY MY LAST SYSTEM DID DO A 147.3 OUT THE TRUNK WITH 2 15S N A SEALED BOX.BUT THE NEW BOX WILL BE TURNING PROBABLY MID 150S,SO ONCE IM DONE I HAVE NO PROBLEM SHOWING YOU KIDS WHATS UP.
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