Originally Posted by 98SOM_T/A

leave it to 05general lee.

Originally Posted by MiDiablo

Thanks dood. I'd love to teach. But def no money there. So for now, I coach 11-12 year baseball players! Pretty soon, I'll be teachin' you fellas what a Fox Body Stang looks like, when the fronts are liftin!

Sorry for the Off Topic shizzle. Back on Topic!

JP

Originally Posted by MiDiablo

Mikey/AcidiCyn/FullThrottle_

I don't know you from Adam. I know 'of you' because of your posts (both here and on N2S), and because I am friends with MoMo - who has vouched that you are simply a person w/a passion for racing, and in all actuality are a good/cool character. I trust his judgement, and therefore give you the benefit of the doubt man.

It is obvious that you are passionate about racing. As we all are. You don't like to lose. No one does. Including Havoc. We can all agree here, I'm sure.

You and Havoc have heat between the two of you - that is evident. Your heat w/him consists of the "shit talking" that ensued at the Causeway, his asking of your age, his supposed shit talking of you behind your back, and so on.

From my discussions w/Havoc, his only problem w/you has been the exact thing in which he's posted about, and to you - which is that you seem different in person w/your attitude and motives, than you do when you get to a keyboard & msg forum. I mean you have managed to be banned twice from N2S due to your attitude alone. And that was the sole reason behind both of the incidents. It is one thing to try and talk a little junk prior to the race, but you gotta know when to draw the line - and be able to keep it friendly.

He has asked your age, surely, because you're so easily giving into the "He Said, She Said" bullshit. Which happens w/childish groups of individuals. Whether or not you truly are one of these individuals, I'm unsure. But you've certainly not done much of a job to prove any different. I'm sure he was curious as to try and figure out why you act in the manner(s) that you do.

As for Havoc being arrogant, and talking shit - DO NOT TAKE ANY OF IT PERSONAL. Especially when it involves getting you, your car, your friends car(s) into a Race. Obviously you know all about Stirring The Pot. He's quite good at it, and it's been a success time and time again. If it weren't for him runnin' around and spoutin' off at the mouth many a nights there would be no races at all. His pokes, and prods are just that - fuel to the fire - to promote Racing, Fun, and Fun Racing Videos to be shared w/everyone on the entire fucking internet.

I know - you don't care what I have to say. You've told me so in several other posts going back and forth b/t you and I. I can respect the fact that w/out knowing me, that my point of view is meaningless to you. Just remember, I wouldn't say a word if it didn't mean shit to me. But this is all meaningful to me - Racing is to be Fun. Losing is to make for a drive to go faster, and be faster. I know I'd enjoy seeing your car(s) going at it, and getting faster, and winning, losing, whatever - just racing w/out Drama.

Sorry for the long post.

Josh

Originally Posted by qitstrn

When i pulled up to the meet and you were setting up a race with Havoc i felt sorry for you becuse they were being dicks to you and you seemed like a nice guy. I know how they get because i delt with it before myself. After reading your posts you deserved it. How can you act like a nice guy and come on here and talk bullshit. Then you ask someone to race you when you have a ziptie holding your throttle cable. . I know things break and a ziptie is good in a bind but you dont go racing people with one holding your throttle cable. Your car is fast but it seems like you should let it do the talking because coming on here posting B.S is only going to make you look bad. Why should Havoc run you off the juice? He had it with him so he should use it. Do you think Havoc took off knowing you broke? It's a long way back to get to where we were. When you get that 200 shot hooked up let me know. Then i'll waste my gas on you and give you a run.

Originally Posted by MADEX

damn man just forget the drama. i was there havoc kept going (so what its his car) you took another race (so what its your car) then you never came back we waited so long for you that alpha fell asleep in bertos car. Leave the he said shit for Junior High and lets just have fun racing!!!

Originally Posted by 05general lee

wtf did i say now i was being serious are you like jealous of me cuz i can stay out past 12 or somthing?

Originally Posted by AcidiCyn_

How am I saying all this 'bullshit'? I am stating what HAPPENED..Gg.

Uh? I wasn't setting up shit buddy. I was sitting on my ass smoking a cigeratte. Havoc and I don't get along, we know...however, we keep it civil. I obviously know they talk shit behind my back, that's sort of expected. However, You obviously are lacking facts with your, 'I felt bad until I read your posts' bullshit.

A ziptie? Does it matter how shit gets done? I got a race in, do you think I'm losing sleep over not racing chris? I don't think so. How about, we didn't run so lets not sit there and ask questions like, 'why should havoc have to run you off the juice, he had it.' Maybe because it was a fucking friendly motor to motor run? Uh? Just maybe? No money on the line, no 'moving up' on the KOTs ladder. Nothing. How about, you do me a favor.

Worry about shit that pretains to you.

You have absolutely nothing to do with this race in any way shape or form. Ty and have a good night.