Does anyone know what is involed in swapping the 6-speed from a GLi/R32/20th aniv. 6-speed into a A4 1.8T 5-speed VW ?

My friend and all his other GTi 1.8t freinds bitch about synos and the sloppy shifting of the 5-speed, and he said someone told him he'd have to change A LOT of stuff in his GTi 5-speed to swap in the 6-speed, which sounds like that person just didn't wanna be the one doing it. The GLi and 20th aniv. GTi have the exsact same engine, so why would it be sooo hard to swap a 6-speed in ?

The car in question has less than 15K miles of being extremly babied, and a little bit of racing ( nothing crazy ) and needs new synos. He claims it has always grinded 2nd gear since the day he pulled it off the truck when he worked a VW.

I'm thinking he should be able to get away with getting his tranny warrentied and just pay the difference in the price of the 6-speed over the 5-speed.

 

yeah, a tranny from a 337 is a direct bolt-on to the awp 1.8ts. any tranny work is always a pain in the ass. even if vw sold you the tranny and installed it, it would void the warrenty. they more then likley wouldnt even do it for this very reason. your best bet is to find a recked 20th or jetta gli and have someone pull it out and install it on your car. but again, once vw sees the car, your warrenty is out the window. if you feel the shifter is slopy, which it is, then get a good short shifter kit like b&m or diesel geek. that will smooth things out for you.

 

I am going to disagree with you, it will not void the warranty. It is an OEM tranny, they might not fix that transmission if something failed, but the rest of the car should still be covered. I am pretty sure the dealership wouldn't notice that the car should have a 5 speed, considering a lot of VW's come with a 6 speed.

And to answer the question, it isn't that hard of a swap. I wouldn't ask the dealership to do it though, unless you have some serious money to blow. You can find used 6-speeds on vortex, just find someone to put it in, or do it yourself.

 

vw voids warrentys for using a oem vr6 clutchs on 1.8ts. i guess it would be up to the master tech at the dealership.

 

He's in real good with techs and everyone at the dealership ( he's working there part time right now ).

My personal opipion is that the techs told him " the six speed is going to cost a lot of money to convert b/c almost nothing is the same ", which like I said, doesn't make much sense, b/c they just didn't wanna do it ( and being freinds with that tech in question, means that HE WOULD BE DOING THE WORK ).

The reason for wanting the swap isn't the sloppy shifter really... Its the Synos, and durability. I'm definately not a VW guy, but my friend definately is, and he told me " the six speed doesn't have anywhere near the syno problems, and its stronger ". Of course the car would be just a little faster too, due to the lower gearing, but in normal A4 Gti owner fassion, he isn't really concerned with speed...

Car has APR CHIP, 2.5'' DP and exhuast, silicone IC piping ( upgraded ), BOV, and a very short shifter...

Basiclly you guys are saying that the GLi/20 aniv. trannys will bolt right in though, right ?

Since VW is going to have to replace the tranny and he is such good friends with them all ( this dealership has replaced clutches, and brake pads under warrenty !! ), I don't see why he couldn't get them to order him a 6-speed instead of a 5-speed and just have him pay the difference in price...

 

unless mechanicly inclined i wouldnt attempt it...it isnt difficult to somone who works on them but...to someone that just drives the car it is a difficult swap..there is a bunch of info about the 337 on the vortex........the dealers around here are very finicky about what they will concider as warranty fixes but there are way to fly under the radar

 

sorry to get off topic, but that's awesome... i wanna see pics if/when he does it.

 

What's awesome?

 

friends or no friends they wont let him pay the difference from the 5 speed to 6 speed y? because vw of america is gonna want that bitch!!!