Gauging Intrest: Wrangler Rubicon
The '07's are totally different, IMO, it's barely even a Wrangler anymore. The prior Rubicons are basically the same though, as far as I know. Other than the Unlimited which is a longer body, which is what I would recommend if you see yourself towing anything...or just want a little extra room.
I personally would not buy an '07, especially for offroading...there's just too many creature comforts which means more things to break. That may prove to be wrong in a couple years...but I'd hate to be the guinea pig. It really all depends on just how much offroading you plan on doing vs. highway driving.
I personally would not buy an '07, especially for offroading...there's just too many creature comforts which means more things to break. That may prove to be wrong in a couple years...but I'd hate to be the guinea pig. It really all depends on just how much offroading you plan on doing vs. highway driving.
get an old toyota pick-up, they're awesome...
edit: seriously, if you just want to get a 4WD truck to go bash through the woods, I would really suggest something older. The aftermarket is endless (if you plan to go that route) and they were built really stong to start. As you can see, I'm a little partial, but jeeps are awesome, or even an old chevy 1-ton would be cool. Either way, electronics are your enemy, in my opinion, the older stuff is simpler and easier to "beat, fix, repeat"
edit: seriously, if you just want to get a 4WD truck to go bash through the woods, I would really suggest something older. The aftermarket is endless (if you plan to go that route) and they were built really stong to start. As you can see, I'm a little partial, but jeeps are awesome, or even an old chevy 1-ton would be cool. Either way, electronics are your enemy, in my opinion, the older stuff is simpler and easier to "beat, fix, repeat"
oddly enough i havent taken any pics of the new ride..ill get some soon..but i dont have photoshop to resize to post on here..so i could email..good luck with your purchase bro..i really wanted a Rubi too..but then i thought..the main reason im getting 1 is to go offroad and have fun whenever possible..and dropping $15k+ on a toy..is something i cant do..but is 80% is daily driving like me..then go after it if thats what you want..good luck
I'm starting to think the Rubicon might not be a good choice if I cant tow my car. I guess I might end up with a Power Wagon or maybe a 4WD 2500 Dodge.
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those new 2500 power wagon diesels are awesome...quad cabs..they sit pretty tall from the factory..i wouldnt mind those..but i love the f250 diesel quad cab short beds..bad ass trucks..similar set up as what Cecil just got..cant go wrong with diesels..even 1s with 100k miles..they are just breaking in..if they are taking care of..ya i would go that route(truck) if its for pulling the car..you can take it through a pit here and there for the fun of it..lol..ill get pics soon..
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7.3 pstroke(92k miles
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2wd
wicked wheel 2
ebvp mod
s&b
5"magnaflow dump
custom 6position chip
05/07 grille
soon to come- djm 3/5kit, 20s or 22s
2010 Snapper Pro 36" z-turn
Kawi 19hp
45hrs
00 f250 ecsb
7.3 pstroke(92k miles
)2wd
wicked wheel 2
ebvp mod
s&b
5"magnaflow dump
custom 6position chip
05/07 grille
soon to come- djm 3/5kit, 20s or 22s
2010 Snapper Pro 36" z-turn
Kawi 19hp
45hrs
those new 2500 power wagon diesels are awesome...quad cabs..they sit pretty tall from the factory..i wouldnt mind those..but i love the f250 diesel quad cab short beds..bad ass trucks..similar set up as what Cecil just got..cant go wrong with diesels..even 1s with 100k miles..they are just breaking in..if they are taking care of..ya i would go that route(truck) if its for pulling the car..you can take it through a pit here and there for the fun of it..lol..ill get pics soon..
I wouldnt touch a newer Ford diesel. My friends 04 6.0L F250 is sitting at Brandon Ford right now cuz it wont start and they cant fix it. It has 35K miles on it and is on motor #2. The only diesel I would ever own is a Cummins or MAYBE an older 7.3L Ford but thats it. I dont really need a diesel so I'm not gonna risk owning one.
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If you need to tow a car often, a Wrangler may not be for you. It would be ok for here and there...short distances; but with such a short wheelbase, they really aren't a good tow vehicle. In that case though, I'd definetly stick to the Unlimited...which is the longer version.
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If you need to tow a car often, a Wrangler may not be for you. It would be ok for here and there...short distances; but with such a short wheelbase, they really aren't a good tow vehicle. In that case though, I'd definetly stick to the Unlimited...which is the longer version.
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it
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dont know what Rubicons are SUPPOSED to be able to tow but i DO know that i personally pulled an f250 through sugar sand the day after I bought my 04; it had 30k miles on it at the time and was entirely stock. my buddy has an older boxy ass f250 and he got stuck when we were on our way out to a trail on this really bad dirt road and i had to pull him about 30-40 yards through the sugar sand portion since it was apparent he wasnt getting through it on his own. jeep didnt overheat or anything and it was done using the stock hook on the rear of the frame, no hitch or anything.
ps - ive got 35s and didnt need to regear; gotta love those 4.11s hahaha
I also hit a fuckin' tree and got it stuck while submerged in muddy water (which fawked the clutch and throwout bearing) within 2 weeks of buying it. i like owning a newer one that wasnt abused before me cuz I know who made all the scratches and I have stories to go along with them. 
pics of it stock;

ps - ive got 35s and didnt need to regear; gotta love those 4.11s hahaha
I also hit a fuckin' tree and got it stuck while submerged in muddy water (which fawked the clutch and throwout bearing) within 2 weeks of buying it. i like owning a newer one that wasnt abused before me cuz I know who made all the scratches and I have stories to go along with them. pics of it stock;

Last edited by soopasteve; Nov 28, 2006 at 04:46 PM.
dont know what Rubicons are SUPPOSED to be able to tow but i DO know that i personally pulled an f250 through sugar sand the day after I bought my 04; it had 30k miles on it at the time and was entirely stock. my buddy has an older boxy ass f250 and he got stuck when we were on our way out to a trail on this really bad dirt road and i had to pull him about 30-40 yards through the sugar sand portion since it was apparent he wasnt getting through it on his own. jeep didnt overheat or anything and it was done using the stock hook on the rear of the frame, no hitch or anything.
ps - ive got 35s and didnt need to regear; gotta love those 4.11s hahaha
I also hit a fuckin' tree and got it stuck while submerged in muddy water (which fawked the clutch and throwout bearing) within 2 weeks of buying it. i like owning a newer one that wasnt abused before me cuz I know who made all the scratches and I have stories to go along with them. 
ps - ive got 35s and didnt need to regear; gotta love those 4.11s hahaha
I also hit a fuckin' tree and got it stuck while submerged in muddy water (which fawked the clutch and throwout bearing) within 2 weeks of buying it. i like owning a newer one that wasnt abused before me cuz I know who made all the scratches and I have stories to go along with them. First off, we're talking about actual towing...as in trailering. Not just pulling someone out from being stuck. Big difference.
Second, 35's on 4.11's do need to be regeared...prefereably to 4.88's. Is it an absolute necessity, probably not, but it would make quite a difference.
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my 4:56s work great..i get 15-18 in the city w/the 35s..just a good idea..but dont need to if you dont want to obviously..but may benefit from it..
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00 f250 ecsb
7.3 pstroke(92k miles
)
2wd
wicked wheel 2
ebvp mod
s&b
5"magnaflow dump
custom 6position chip
05/07 grille
soon to come- djm 3/5kit, 20s or 22s
2010 Snapper Pro 36" z-turn
Kawi 19hp
45hrs
00 f250 ecsb
7.3 pstroke(92k miles
)2wd
wicked wheel 2
ebvp mod
s&b
5"magnaflow dump
custom 6position chip
05/07 grille
soon to come- djm 3/5kit, 20s or 22s
2010 Snapper Pro 36" z-turn
Kawi 19hp
45hrs
How built of one are you looking for? A friend of mine may be selling his. 04 Rubicon, PSC cage, Warn lock out hubs, upgraded shafts, 6 or 8" Long arm lift, skids, 37" Krawlers, TR beadlocks, bumpers, winch, etc... Bought and built to wheel, not a perfect body but good shape.
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How built of one are you looking for? A friend of mine may be selling his. 04 Rubicon, PSC cage, Warn lock out hubs, upgraded shafts, 6 or 8" Long arm lift, skids, 37" Krawlers, TR beadlocks, bumpers, winch, etc... Bought and built to wheel, not a perfect body but good shape.


Looks nice.....where was that pic taken?
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