Originally Posted by lifeisviewtiful

bro you do not want to argue with orion about toyotas


and on a side note, NO you won't see much of a difference or horsepower gains. the only other way i would imagine you'd see much gains is if you

modify/get a bigger throttle body
bigger intake manifold
at least 3 inch piping on CAI
and spend decent money and get a K&N filter


thats the only way i can see much gains on a cai, and that comes from experience on helping my cousin with his b18c1 swapped civic si hatch. he did all that i listed there PLUS full catback with 3 INCH piping straight to the back and only gained around 12 hp. alot of people mistake alot of the principles of how engines work, including me. when i first "got into cars" i was thinking small. CAI, putting a "aftermarket" muffler on stock pipes thinking i was getting "speed" . until someone introduced me to the wonderful world of turboes. like orion said, if she wants REAL HP gains she might want to look into these:

cam gears
camshaft(don't know how that will work with the vvtl-i)
aftermarket throttle body
full exhaust(and i mean full, not just headers and a tailpipe)
piggyback ecu system greddy emanage is pretty good for decent tuning(again i don't know how this will help or hurt the vvtl-i)
lighter flywheel, pulleys

i don't know how much HP that will get you, but its way more practical than sticking a whole bunch of rice mods on a nice car.

Originally Posted by Got_my_air_on

Originally Posted by lifeisviewtiful

ask any of the guys on here that own FAST cars like john or kirk for example if a cai is actually worth it or for that matter does anything but get you a blown engine in the summer time.

Originally Posted by lifeisviewtiful

you're not telling me things i do not know. i know about the owner of AEM doing the fish tank deal with his nsx.
also there is a difference between simply submerging a filter in water and riding into a puddle going about 40 mph.

Originally Posted by 95Ride

im not saying you didnt know that im just making a point
and im aware theres a difference but motors can hadle a sertant amount of water inthem it will just blow it out the exhaust and assuming you do your serviceds every 3k with good brand stuff it shouldnt be a probablem...what causes a motor to "hydroloc" is when there enough water to fill the combustion chamber on compression strock so that it makes the piston simulate hitting a brick wall....ive driven in florida with a true CAI with a bypass filter and have never had problems