4A-G(Z)E buildup
So my teacher just gave me a free spare 4A block...it looks like its off a 4A-FE, but the damn thing is brand freakin new...I have my doubts about the pistons ever seeing a single spark and the whole block just looks like it was never even run...
...needless to say, I was going to upgrade my Rolla anyways because of lack of power and wanting to switch out to a 3.9 or 3.7 rear end.
So here I am, spare full stock bottom, wondering my options. I vowed everything I own will have a turbo or at least a supercharger...though with a pissant 1.6L 4 banger, it most definetly is getting a S/C instead. Originally I had planned getting a full GZE engine, but since I already have half of it, I figured I should just get the GZE internals (or better even....though I dont want to spend $$$$$$$$$$ money if they even have better than GZE stock stuff).
Intercooler could come off of my Supra, as well as injectors to upgrade with. Convenient, as the stock IC blows on it and the injectors are all thats holding me back from 400rwhp+ on my Supra, which I dont think will be running any time soon anyways. As far as S/C, I could probably stick to the stock Toyota GZE, unless if there was a "better" roots or Eatonish blower...this is one part I also need help with. Being a turbo nutswinger, I dont know shit about S/Cs, except the difference between a centrifigul and roots.
I know HachiBill has a badass GZE, and I'm not happy that I missed him bringing it out to the Hooters meet the 1 weekend I dont make it up...dude, if you could bring it out again, I'd be very appreciative, as I have alot of questions about it.
Any info at all really would be helpful. I didnt find all too much at Club4AG
...needless to say, I was going to upgrade my Rolla anyways because of lack of power and wanting to switch out to a 3.9 or 3.7 rear end.
So here I am, spare full stock bottom, wondering my options. I vowed everything I own will have a turbo or at least a supercharger...though with a pissant 1.6L 4 banger, it most definetly is getting a S/C instead. Originally I had planned getting a full GZE engine, but since I already have half of it, I figured I should just get the GZE internals (or better even....though I dont want to spend $$$$$$$$$$ money if they even have better than GZE stock stuff).
Intercooler could come off of my Supra, as well as injectors to upgrade with. Convenient, as the stock IC blows on it and the injectors are all thats holding me back from 400rwhp+ on my Supra, which I dont think will be running any time soon anyways. As far as S/C, I could probably stick to the stock Toyota GZE, unless if there was a "better" roots or Eatonish blower...this is one part I also need help with. Being a turbo nutswinger, I dont know shit about S/Cs, except the difference between a centrifigul and roots.
I know HachiBill has a badass GZE, and I'm not happy that I missed him bringing it out to the Hooters meet the 1 weekend I dont make it up...dude, if you could bring it out again, I'd be very appreciative, as I have alot of questions about it.
Any info at all really would be helpful. I didnt find all too much at Club4AG
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Yea..that very well could have been the most retarded idea I've ever heard, but .. do it anyway. -TheShow50h
ok, obviously you know not alot about the 4a series of engines. my car isn't s/c'ed yet, plus if thats the car i think it is then it has 200k miles on it already. if you plan on doing something then the block you have is useless. the 4ac-4afe bottom ends aren't the same as the ge/gze. if you supercharge that motor the only thing you will efficently relocate is the rod out the side of the block. you can tell which type of motor you have as to the size of the rist pins or if it has oil squirters. you can't interchange bottom end pieces from series to series. and there are about 7 different A engine series. so good luck on tring to peice something together. then you have to find some way to make it run. and the stock corolla computer isn't going to get the job done. ahhh and then there's the tranny. well i'm on my 6th t-50 and my car has always been stock with about 90hp or so. so you can imagine what power will do to the same tranny. especially one with 200k miles on it. and the fact i have almost 2 grand in my rear end tring to keep that alive. corolla's are fun, but they are delicate. just keep it stock and spend the money on fixing your 2 other projects. or you'll end up with 3 cars that don't run.
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So I wouldnt be able to get some stock GZE internals to replace the spare block with? Dammit. And no, I dont know shit about these engines...I'm a poopra guy. Someone told me you had S/C'd yours.
Alrighty...well looks like my 88 will be getting my attention now then...thanks anyways Bill
Alrighty...well looks like my 88 will be getting my attention now then...thanks anyways Bill
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Yes, I am a "poopra guy", and thank you for contributing to my thread.
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Yea..that very well could have been the most retarded idea I've ever heard, but .. do it anyway. -TheShow50h

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get a gze bottom end , put your bluehat head on it and put a t25 off an sr on it ...
Megasquirt pwns you and grab the poopra cooler if its free I guess and definately the injectors , the fuel pump too if you can ..
Megasquirt pwns you and grab the poopra cooler if its free I guess and definately the injectors , the fuel pump too if you can ..
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Originally Posted by Boosted4AG
get a gze bottom end , put your bluehat head on it and put a t25 off an sr on it ...
Megasquirt pwns you and grab the poopra cooler if its free I guess and definately the injectors , the fuel pump too if you can ..
Megasquirt pwns you and grab the poopra cooler if its free I guess and definately the injectors , the fuel pump too if you can ..
Right now I'm going nerdy...upgrading my comp and saving for an Xbox 360, then back to cars to either get the Poopra up and running or the Rolla "trick'd out Pozer Mobile"
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Originally Posted by Boosted4AG
get a gze bottom end , put your bluehat head on it and put a t25 off an sr on it ...
Megasquirt pwns you and grab the poopra cooler if its free I guess and definately the injectors , the fuel pump too if you can ..
Megasquirt pwns you and grab the poopra cooler if its free I guess and definately the injectors , the fuel pump too if you can ..
you have to use the whole gze block and botom end. i sounded like he just wanted to put gze internals in another block, which you can't do. but i would still just do the supra instead. and keep the rolla around for daily driveing. again.... it sounds like you have to many projects on your hands. i'd be more than willing to buy the rolla off you. even though the guy was supposed to call me when he wanted to sell it anyways.
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I appologize for stealing this car from you...seriously, the reason I had it and you didnt is that I had asked about it before I got my first Supra because I insisted that I could swap a 1JZ in it. That didnt last long...too much custom for a first car.
The thing is...Sarasota traffic is killing the Rolla. I granny it and all, but in traffic it just cant take the retarded people. Flat out, it just needs more oomph, and sooner or later it'll have forced induction. Since I cant fix and mix, I'll just be selling my spare block then.
As for the Poopra...even to get it running, it'll take quite a bit of money, and this is supposed to be an "ultimate street car" so I'm not going to skimp out [/u]anywhere.[/u] To get it running, its either a TiAL or 1G DSM BOV; my GReddy Type S has to go. It'll need a new cam position sensor, power steering rack, and O2 sensor...just to get it running. Its also going to need a complete new exhaust from the downpipe back, brake fluid, valve adjustment, radiator flush, MegaSquirt, wideband O2 (Zeitronix package), intercooler, fuel pump, injectors, FFIM, K&N filter, oil filter relocation kit and all sorts of lines...
Whereas with the Corolla, I could swap in a stock GZE, intake and exhaust, and take the injectors, fuel pump, and intercooler all off the Poopra (for free) and leave it like that till the Poopra is running again.
The thing is...Sarasota traffic is killing the Rolla. I granny it and all, but in traffic it just cant take the retarded people. Flat out, it just needs more oomph, and sooner or later it'll have forced induction. Since I cant fix and mix, I'll just be selling my spare block then.
As for the Poopra...even to get it running, it'll take quite a bit of money, and this is supposed to be an "ultimate street car" so I'm not going to skimp out [/u]anywhere.[/u] To get it running, its either a TiAL or 1G DSM BOV; my GReddy Type S has to go. It'll need a new cam position sensor, power steering rack, and O2 sensor...just to get it running. Its also going to need a complete new exhaust from the downpipe back, brake fluid, valve adjustment, radiator flush, MegaSquirt, wideband O2 (Zeitronix package), intercooler, fuel pump, injectors, FFIM, K&N filter, oil filter relocation kit and all sorts of lines...
Whereas with the Corolla, I could swap in a stock GZE, intake and exhaust, and take the injectors, fuel pump, and intercooler all off the Poopra (for free) and leave it like that till the Poopra is running again.
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Yea..that very well could have been the most retarded idea I've ever heard, but .. do it anyway. -TheShow50h

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Yea..that very well could have been the most retarded idea I've ever heard, but .. do it anyway. -TheShow50h
although the GZE is considered a "bolt in". its actually not as simple as that. yes the motor bolts in, but nothing else thats attched to the motor has proper clearence in the RWD configuration. i.e cooling system, supercharger system, accessory placement. and on and on. its a big jeeeooooorrb. just do your hoime work before you start, or contact me and i can point you in the right direction. i drive my slow ass corolla 100 miles a day and have a blast the whole time. power is not needed.
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Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian
I appologize for stealing this car from you...seriously, the reason I had it and you didnt is that I had asked about it before I got my first Supra because I insisted that I could swap a 1JZ in it. That didnt last long...too much custom for a first car.
The thing is...Sarasota traffic is killing the Rolla. I granny it and all, but in traffic it just cant take the retarded people. Flat out, it just needs more oomph, and sooner or later it'll have forced induction. Since I cant fix and mix, I'll just be selling my spare block then.
As for the Poopra...even to get it running, it'll take quite a bit of money, and this is supposed to be an "ultimate street car" so I'm not going to skimp out [/u]anywhere.[/u] To get it running, its either a TiAL or 1G DSM BOV; my GReddy Type S has to go. It'll need a new cam position sensor, power steering rack, and O2 sensor...just to get it running. Its also going to need a complete new exhaust from the downpipe back, brake fluid, valve adjustment, radiator flush, MegaSquirt, wideband O2 (Zeitronix package), intercooler, fuel pump, injectors, FFIM, K&N filter, oil filter relocation kit and all sorts of lines...
Whereas with the Corolla, I could swap in a stock GZE, intake and exhaust, and take the injectors, fuel pump, and intercooler all off the Poopra (for free) and leave it like that till the Poopra is running again.
The thing is...Sarasota traffic is killing the Rolla. I granny it and all, but in traffic it just cant take the retarded people. Flat out, it just needs more oomph, and sooner or later it'll have forced induction. Since I cant fix and mix, I'll just be selling my spare block then.
As for the Poopra...even to get it running, it'll take quite a bit of money, and this is supposed to be an "ultimate street car" so I'm not going to skimp out [/u]anywhere.[/u] To get it running, its either a TiAL or 1G DSM BOV; my GReddy Type S has to go. It'll need a new cam position sensor, power steering rack, and O2 sensor...just to get it running. Its also going to need a complete new exhaust from the downpipe back, brake fluid, valve adjustment, radiator flush, MegaSquirt, wideband O2 (Zeitronix package), intercooler, fuel pump, injectors, FFIM, K&N filter, oil filter relocation kit and all sorts of lines...
Whereas with the Corolla, I could swap in a stock GZE, intake and exhaust, and take the injectors, fuel pump, and intercooler all off the Poopra (for free) and leave it like that till the Poopra is running again.
you need to slow down and rethink what you are actually doing. your trying to build a track car for street use. you need to leave one of the cars stock period or your as is gonna end up on the bus. o2 sensor is like $40 at autozone, rack and pinion can be got at a boneyard, cps can be had on ebay for less then $20, greddy type s bov's work fine if you have them adjusted right(a 1g dsm bov is just a total pos that will stay open the entire time your at idle and if crushed wont open very much, and is a small valve anyway). stock ecu works fine unless your building a race car, wideband o2 isnt needed either unless your trying to build a race car, ffim, k&n, oil relocation, etc.. arnt needed to get the car running. you could have it running for less then $100, but you dont want to. you cant build 3 cars at once. you can only effectivly build 1 car at a time. otherwise none of them will ever be finished.
Last edited by williamb82; Nov 25, 2005 at 04:49 PM.


