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Scott Siegel moves to TopSpeed

Old Oct 18, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by platinm
They are the best in the Southeastern region for sure.
That's something I could at least consider as a possibility.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by stiscooby
and, jblaine.... who are the best? b/c i think it all comes down to preferences.
How does "best" come down to preferences?

"Best" means one thing in the tuning world. It doesn't mean "nicest" or "most accomodating" or "inexpensive" or "best at road tuning VF39 setups"

Don't look at me. I'm not the one who said "probably the 2 best tuners in the US". Ask faded how he came to that conclusion, not me

Have you been tuned by both guys? who else have you been tuned by?
I tuned my Hydra myself and had Phil Grabow from Element Tuning check it out on the dyno up at CFT.

Prior to that I had Franz @ KTR Performance in MA do an EcuTek tune on my old setup in early 2003.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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just stating my opinion. personal preference as well.

you say who you liked tuning your car and i stated mine.

is there a true way to know unless you have had EVERY tuner tune your car? jblaine, your answer is a useful as mine. you provided your preference, i provided mine.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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wow, is all i have to say here.

kindergarden 101: "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all."

Read back on what you wrote. Tell me that wasnt turning the tides on bashing.

Anyway, lets all give scotty-do a welcoming on going to topspeed. Hey guys, thats gonna free up more time on his schedule to come and see all of us. He is now back to answering his phone and emails like he use to. Thats awesome. Good for him. I talked to him yesterday and he sounds good.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Uhh... no, it wasn't bashing at all. I'm sorry you feel it was. I didn't say a single negative thing about either tuner. I commented, pretty clearly, that I totally disagreed with the idea that SS and Doug were "probably the top 2 US tuners".

This is exactly why I stopped posting in here 2 years ago. It's nearly impossible to talk objectively with any of you. It's all one big protective kool-aid drinking Subaru-pride festival. It's the same reason I've been to exactly 1 meet.

I made a mistake by posting. Later.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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well, we all want to be on the same terms and all be friends. I know you disagree, but you dont have to go sour with it. You took alot into effect and told some people off. Scott is a good friend of mine. And the things you said hurt me as well. As i said its all preference. You didnt have to say the things you said. basically, you didnt have to write in the post.

When the post is about scott changing directions, you dont write about how bad a person is and claim they are terrible at tuning. Again, if you have nothing nice to say, dont say it at all.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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where was your input about scott changing directions with companies? He said that he wanted to spend more family time and topspeed can provide that. So, out of his religious heart he wanted to free up more time in his life to provide his services to his family and society.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Sorry you dont want to agree and want to be objective, but this isnt a topic about how bad a bov is on a car. Again, this is about scotts change in life. So, you changed tides in the post and directed this off course
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Im sorry you dont get along with all of us. Maybe with less objection, you would understand us at the level we all sit at.

SS is on both sides of the coin and provides objection in a non aggressive manner to help us choose the right direction. This is why we like scott. He will help you chose the parts and pieces that will work great with the car. HE will discuss with you on what is right and wrong.

Sure, many tuners will do this. But, out of the faint of heart, this is about SS, not anyone else. I will support him till the cows come home. Is there someone "better" than him? yea, probably. But i will never know until i try others. Doug didnt do so hot on my car and thus i switched. Scott has tuned my car a few times and so far so good. Preference ftw.

Again, good luck scott
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Matt,

I have to agree with Jeff here. He was stating disagreement with the statement made. He was in no way bashing anyone. I think you and James (to some degree) are the one who took it personally and "sour". I would have to think Scott is modest enough to agree with Jeff's post " I don't think SS or Doug would EVER agree with that suggestion (that they are the best)".

Do I think SS is fantastic? Yes indeed! He would not have tuned my car multiples times if not. He would not be tuning it again in the relative near future if not.

Realize Jeff is a very logic based person and take his statements that way.

Scott, congratulations! It's great to see a man of values not only say his family is his priority, but actually do it. Very much lacking in today's world.
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