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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Balboa
Preloading = put the bar on, jack up car, adjust and tighten bolts, lower car?
No, that wouldn't help you out much.
Preloading is basically a fancy term for taking the slack out of a suspension component. So where a strut brace is concerned, you would want to tighten up the slop by putting pressure towards the length of the bar. The good aftermarket strut braces usually allow adjustment of preload via some threaded insert. You preload 'em on the ground by torquing on the adjustment mechanism, and only slightly as the amount of preload wanted is very slight (normaly).

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:54 AM
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^ That's essentially what I meant, but with the car off the ground you are able to preload it more.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Balboa
^ That's essentially what I meant, but with the car off the ground you are able to preload it more.
And why would you want to do that? Disregard the fact that the suspension is unloaded, hanging down, and out of spec. What would you hope to gain by preloading the bar more? Strut towers with stress cracks? Camber impact? Don't really see what you're getting at. Keep in mind that preload is kind of a touchy topic. Some agrue that minor preload is needed on tower bars, some that none is needed, and still others argue that tower bars aren't needed altogether. I've yet to see anyone yet however argue that a ton of preload is desirable. You just want to kick out some slop, not stress suspension components.

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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get the ebay ones put em on and your fine.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill
And why would you want to do that? Disregard the fact that the suspension is unloaded, hanging down, and out of spec. What would you hope to gain by preloading the bar more? Strut towers with stress cracks? Camber impact? Don't really see what you're getting at. Keep in mind that preload is kind of a touchy topic. Some agrue that minor preload is needed on tower bars, some that none is needed, and still others argue that tower bars aren't needed altogether. I've yet to see anyone yet however argue that a ton of preload is desirable. You just want to kick out some slop, not stress suspension components.
I dunno, read that somewhere a few years back...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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+1 to Bill - too much preload will distort the suspension geometry. When I used a jack it was a dinky scissor jack that was tightened just enough to get the bar to fit, no more.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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BTW - this is a pretty good answer to your question:
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/St...bar_theory.htm
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Thanks for the info everybody. Looks like Ill be going with the rear sway first. A FSTB will probably come a little later down the road. I looked over the install instructions for a rear sway and it seems pretty straight forward. Are there any hangups that I should lookout for when throwing it on? Oh and are the swaybar endlinks absolutely necessary? I know theyll just give a greater improvement, but if Im getting them as well I need to save up a few extra pennies.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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i would go with the IPD set up. we did a swap in the parking lot at Old chicago. pasenger side one bolt is kind of hard to get started.

244.25 for the whole kit. 20 22 24mm ajustable

http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.as...38&RootID=1414
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by supaflytiger
Thanks for the info everybody. Looks like Ill be going with the rear sway first. A FSTB will probably come a little later down the road. I looked over the install instructions for a rear sway and it seems pretty straight forward. Are there any hangups that I should lookout for when throwing it on? Oh and are the swaybar endlinks absolutely necessary? I know theyll just give a greater improvement, but if Im getting them as well I need to save up a few extra pennies.

The rear is pretty easy.. I recommend having some help. I had Scott (LeroyDriver) help me when I did mine... When you are ready to do it I would be willign to help you just drop me a message.

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