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Dyno day? Breaking ME in.

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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Default Dyno day? Breaking ME in.

Hey all after meeting 2k2Maxx, KickSLop, Billy, Frances, Big_V and Russ from Nasoic at Sonic on Saturday I've been turned to the dark side.

Never been on a dyno, never been to or on the track. So I'd like to establish a baseline for each. Question is which awd dynos are relatively local? Yes I used the search feature. Mastro seems high $$ for me. The other choices are Coastal (pics only seem to show 2wd not awd dynos though) in Brandon? and Cft in Orlando correct?

I'm looking at probably going one of the last two weekends in April for the dyno. Anybody else interested in going? I'll see about getting a discount rate if a few commit to going. Sort of need at least one other person so I can be installing my first mod (Typhoon) after my base run(s).

I'll probably take it to the track before then.
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 03:12 AM
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A 4wd dyno is going to cost more than a 2wd because it cost more money to purchase.

Any shop selling it for a 2wd price is not that bright.

On that note Dynapacks have a great reputation and are used by Nascar teams as well as TRD.
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 03:45 AM
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Depending on when you go, I'm in (if I have the money that is).
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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what's the price for 2-3 pulls?
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:09 AM
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Well I also wanto to run a base for my car before upgrading the turbo, and EM. I also have a civic turbo hatch that needs some dyno tuning. I have a friend with a TSi that probably wouldn't mind getting some numbers. CFT seems to be cheap, 80 for 2 pulls or starting at 75 an hour for them tuning. http://centralfloridaturbo.com/dynotuning.php
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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CFT > All

yay CFT
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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I suggest you go somewhere with proper cooling, for starters
To prove his point, Dinan bolts to his Dynopack one of his 2003 Dinan M5s, heavily tweaked to make a claimed 470 horsepower at the crank (he expects about 415 at the wheels). With the hood closed and no external fan blowing air into the radiator, the car wheezes out just 334 horsepower at the wheels. An LCD data logger on the dashboard reveals the air-fuel ratio from the engine computer. Approaching redline, the BMW's computer richens the mixture all the way to 9.5:1 as the underhood temperatures soar.

That's one thick mix, practically charcoal briquettes blowing out of the tailpipe. But then, with the M5 running in fifth gear (the 1:1 gear ratio with the least friction, preferred by dyno testers), the computer expects 159 mph worth of cooling wind blast around the horsepower peak. It's getting nothing, and it knows.

Now Dinan opens the hood and turns on a small Home Depot shop fan blowing about 10 mph worth of air. The M5 is allowed to shed some excess heat and then run again. This time the computer finds another 37 horsepower, or 371. Things are looking up, but the M5's output is still nowhere near Dinan's expected number of 415.

"I can't claim something I can't measure," says Dinan, so the crew then wheels out the big gun: a $7000 electric fan that looks like it should be hanging on the wing of a Boeing 737. It blasts 38,000 cubic feet per minute of air at 75 mph down a narrow duct, right into the M5's radiator. The fan roars, the M5 howls, the computer twinkles, and the graph paper ticka-ticks out of the printer. It says 411.4 horsepower, the best run of the day.

"I'd pick up four or five more horsepower if I came back tomorrow morning and ran it at 70-degree room temperature," says Dinan. The room is currently 81 degrees.

"Basically, what horsepower would you like? I can give you anything from 330 to 420 with the same car," Dinan says
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Kick are you saying CFT doesn't have proper cooling?
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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For the sake of what you are doing, it should be fine

I do not feel they, nor Mastro, have proper cooling in place for a well-run dyno facility.

It is the single largest thing shops skimp on. They buy an $80,000 - $120,000 dyno and their budget is shot.

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well...

maybe we could all chip in and rent a monster air mover, and then goto mastro?

seriously........

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