Originally Posted by
lancerman
well thats exactly the thing here. he "assumed" he was getting new shims. I never told him or any of my customers they were getting new parts in places they arent needed. there are transmission shops that advertise they use all new shims and new lock nuts. maybe thats where he got the assumption I do them the same way? I dont advertise at all. I simply do things the way i like to do them for my own cars. Thats what he paid for and thats what he got. he is entitled to take his own trans apart to see if he got the parts he paid for. he not entitled to ask for money for me to pay for it his labor. he was not charged for new shims or new nuts.
So I guess you just answered Cjacksons post finally that he made previously in this thread. You charged Orlando $300 labor and $1200 for home made parts. You continue to make yourself look like a further scumbag Jerry. There is no fucking way in hell ANYONE would even have to assume they are getting OEM parts for that price. It is simply EXPECTED.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
Chris you have no business in this thread. why are you not in here with Tech that would be pertinent to the subject at hand?
All I have done is talk about the subject at hand Jerry. Every time I ask you a question about your poor business ethics regarding Orlando or Miguels business dealings with you, you gone on a 3 paragraph rant about something that has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand in further attempts to derail the thread and avoid the entire situation.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
why arent you talking about the trans and t-case work thats in your record setting car? the ones I built? When Orlando called to talk about the trans he did mention your car. He said he loved the way it shifted. Hey isnt that the trans that was in the car when it went 9's. hmm. thats something.
This is one of the reasons as to why I am so upset about these business situations with you Jerry. I know your capable of doing good work. That's what makes this even further frustrating. It's not a matter of you can't do it, but shear laziness and greed that is the real cause of these situations.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
What I dont like about you Chris is how you have only one fast car to your name.A car that was built from all bolt on parts.That other people made. Then tuned by another shop. Then driven by you to record setting times. And now you are a pro. Enough of a pro to start your own speed shop.
Well isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. As I remember it, you have in your entire career only had one fast car as well, the yellow one. Last I checked the fastest it went was 10.1....My math may be wrong but, isn't 9.96 FASTER then 10.1? Weird how I have been in this game maybe 1/4 of the time you have, yet I have already produced a faster car, interesting.... You may have not been "tuned by a shop" but you have certainly had quite a bit of help on the DSM Link forums. Posting up your logs and having others tell you how to fix things. Hmm.... quite hypocritical don't you think????
Originally Posted by
lancerman
Didnt you tune Orlandos old EVO FP black car that he just sold? Cause I heard that car blew the head gasket the first week the new owner had the car. I guess he got a drag race safe tune and not a safe road race tune. Maybe he should have been informed what he was paying for?
Ah, here come the lies that I knew you were going to create since you lied about your phone conversation with Orlando. That car has been beaten mercilessly by it's new owner and is still running perfectly to this day. The owner has recently broken the transmission due to driver error, but as for the motor, it is still in perfect working order and the owner is very happy with the driveability and performance. I would be more then happy to ask the new owner of the car to get on Tampa Racing and talk about his positive experiences with his new car in this thread if you'd like. Blowing head gaskets is your thing Jerry, not mine.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
Worse than that you now claim to tune your own car? Hows that going?
That's going perfectly fine, thanks for asking. I have made the driveability as good as it gets on speed density for the Evo stock ecu. The program inherently has a random ignition studder around 2,500 rpms during cruise that has unable to be completely fixed by the computer programmers that have developed the program for the stock Ecu. Oh, and I made 557whp on 93oct so far.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
Cause when I drove the car on Scotts tune I was shocked how bad the daily drivability was. (have no idea what you paid for with Scott. hopefully WOT tuning only) After driving 100s of performance cars I can honestly say your car had the worst drivability I have ever seen. When John drove the car to dyno to Scotts he had the exact same impression. He had to call me the last time he did that for you. he was shocked at how bad the car drove. "have you ever driven this car"
Just another meaningless paragraph that has nothing to do with anyone in this thread. We all know Scott tunes like shit, which is why he is out of the community. Also because he had many dishonest business dealings....better be careful Jerry.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
And hey even Orlando had to admit to the same. The same Orlando that you are siding with here. When Orlando dropped his tranny off here he talked about being the driver of your the car, to put brake in miles on it. he said when he was done after a week of driving the car he threw the keys back at you. He said he never wanted to drive your car again. he said it was the worst driving car he has ever driven. he said he doesnt want to build HIS car LIKE that. Whats really weird about this is you are the guy constantly on forums arguing with other people who are breaking your record times. your biggest argument always is how you car is not modded to be a race car. its still a street car with all the creature comforts. Even I was impressed by the the records. UNTIL I DROVE IT. hey we are just being honest here. hope thats okay with you.
Yes, Orlando is not a fan of my car. I have solid motor mounts, balance shafts removed, and a solid rear differential support bar so the car has extra vibrations carrying through the frame. Orlando is a fan of OEM and doing mild modifications to make the car as close to stock as possible, not into making track results and setting records. He is far more laid back then I am. The car still has a/c, full interior, in dash navigation, etc.. It is FAR from a race car.
Originally Posted by
lancerman
I do have something nice to say about your tuning. You did a good job on Miguels car. The one that has English racing start up map on it. His car drives quite nice. But I heard he paid 100 dollars for the tune from you. I just have one simple question for you. Is that your going rate for a tune? Or just how desperate you are to get your name out there?
Yes the car had a start up map from English Racing. I was unavailable to drive to Tampa the week Miguel was ready to get his car running, so he enlisted Aaron to send him a base map. Miguel has been an acquaintance of Aarons for a good while now and they have a good performance relationship together. Aarons a great guy and I am happy to see him get some of Miguels business. My car drives very similar to Miguels car with Aaron's base map on the car. The only real difference is I have my car running in closed loop for cruising, while Aaron has set up Miguels base map with full time open loop. Not particularly my taste, but it works fine on Miguels car. I see you are going to stoop even lower by publicly advertising the special sponsorship price I gave Miguel because of the potential of his setup and him being a long time friend. No, that is not my going rate Jerry, but it is something I am able to do for a guy that has an extremely modest budget and deserves a break. We can't all do business like yourself, trying to suck wallets dry..
Now that I have cleared up all of your lies, misinformation, and answering your continued off topic useless posts, I will attempt to get back to the topic at hand. You charged Orlando NEW prices for used and damaged parts, told him on the phone you would make it right, and then ducked his calls and told him you wouldn't talk to him about this again. Why Jerry???? Why did you tell Orlando on the phone that you would make this situation right by him and then leave him hanging out to dry????