You are correct sir. The auto tl with sliding calipers does NOT Need the spacers. It's only needed if you have the brembos. The spacers ARE hubcentric but I did that just to be safe. The wheels didn't need rings on my accord and didn't vibrate at all. With the spacers on the front, it's almost exactly flush if not a tiny bit of poke. The tires are stretched on the front so it's onthe safe side. I suppose you could always dial in camber or a slight tug on the front fenders if you need to tweak. The rears are flush/poke but not like a roller-skate or herra-frush jdm VIP shit.