Originally Posted by DarkBuddha

In my enthusiasm to post my above response, I missed saying that I think the elitism of "no ricer cars", etc. is complete BS to me. I'm a car and driving enthusiast, so I have an interest all kinds of cars (admittedly some more than others) doing all kinds of stuff. Folks that don't aren't my kinda folks. When I encounter an owner of an enthusiast car (whether it's a Ferrari or a Camaro or a hachi roku) that shows no interest in any other kind of car, I get annoyed. Same for folks that are domestic only, or JDM only, or auto-x only, or drag only, or whatever only. And really, I don't have as much of an interest in looking at yet another unmodified, undriven Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, etc. I can't identify, they don't inspire me, and at my age, they don't have the same impact anymore. I'd much rather look at somebody's half-done project and witness the process of an enthusiast trying to realize their aspiration. And I'd much rather watch a guy mar the paint on his car hitting a cone at an auto-x than look at the mile deep Ferrari red paint on a row of Modenas.

Perhaps what we do need is a c&c event for the enthusiasts that don't have exotics. Maybe my ideas aren't dead-ends... yet. We'll see...