ok well thats why i said most NA k series an everybody think sense its an k series is super duper fast an im sure ur all motor built k series will beat me but i bet i didnt spend half the money you did...an its an just bout my dd/race car IDIOT... an i would run it when ever i walk over k24a2 eg hatchs all day on 11lbs...an i was just sayin if he didnt want to spend 6k+ on a k series he could spend 3k an have an fun ass boosted civic with plenty of power..