Yeah that is what I meant. Not too many people rebuild their Honda trannys because of how hard it is and there is a good availability of used trannys out there. But all these cable trannys are 8-12 years old and finding one that isnt already grinding is almost impossible. I cant remember the last time Ive driven/riden in a cable tranny hybrid that hasnt grinded at least third gear. So my advise is to try and find a tranny that can be rebuilt in the future.