ok well im not trying to stir anything up and you are right about the cars i race against. we are all good friends who love cars but cant afford anything special yet- a boosted mazda protege, a 3000gt non vr4, etc. all fun but not the fastest around. and ike i said earlier, i was just looking for opinions on that "mod". I wasnt planning on using it, just wantin more info on it. so thanks guys.