I'm not arguing that you can't be considered a protuner. But I'ved talked to bcs and he doesn't seem like he has the experience to jump in a Subaru and have it tuned perfectly in just a couple of hours. He definitely seems to be on that path, just not yet. Once you can tune a good majority of the setups thrown at you, you receive good feedback, and your tunes are proven to be successful, you can then call yourself a protuner. Thats just my oponion. I consider Jeff to be a protuner. Many people have been successful with hit tunes, haven't actually heard anything bad about him at all. I don't feel you need a dyno to be a good tuner. Definitely a good wideband though lol.

Now that I think of it, could Jeff (snowman) tune big setups?