good night.
oh the M motors are not even in the same school as the jz.
the lack of numbers is the fact of rarity of the 1jz(like you said).
i will find a good graph. PEACE.


P.s. why do you think the 1jz-gte is not a contender against the 2jz? it is the base platform that the 2jz-gte came from.
what makes the 2jz better? lets turn this around for good debait.

i dont want to come on TR and look or sound like an asshole(reading lines of text, such this forum, is hard to tell if someone is being negitive or not)
if i have come off rude or negative i am sorry.
i dont speak down on the 2jz-gte in any way. it is the second generation of the jz series(witch is omnipotent).
really, lets continue this talk without thinking it is a pissing contest or an arguement. lets help make the toyota branch of TR the strongest and fastest of the forum hope you feel better, i was sick a few weeks ago