hey just remember who came in talking about it getting bad mpg because its a V8....without really knowing anything about what kind of mpgs most new V8s are getting. I dont have a problem with civics, most of the time, but if we (the V8 guys) went into a honda thread and said something about making less tq then a blender you sure would come back with something right?

btw iam not trying to start a import/usdm war, just speaking the truth...