John, I know EXACTLY what you are saying. But let me bring up a few points in my defence.

First, Clint is right in the fact that no one came into this room. It didnt have anything close to the number of people that Honda, Ford, or even the up and comming Nissan room has. And yes, we would just sit and BS in here, not ONLY about our opinions of TR if you read that deep into the threads. Not being rude, but if you also noticed, when a tech question WAS asked in here, we all answered it completely and then when our "job" was done we went back to BSing. Being that there was no traffic in the room besides the 3 of us that frequent the room, we figured there was no harm no foul. Had we been doing this in FFA where EVERYONE reads it, oh yeah that would be asking for it. As I said before, if it was brought to my attention before about how it WAS being noticed by everyone.. it would have stopped.

Second, although it may not matter much to you, most of those threads and discussions were BEFORE I was made a mod. Not that it makes the situation any more right, but its not like the day I became a mod i went around slandering the place.

Third and probably most important.. We were not bashing the site itself, or any of the people who make up the foundation of the site. John, you KNOW I have nothing against you, or any of the other admin/mods i have met. Fordman especially b/c of his track days. The people and the problems that we had and talked about were the exact same people that all the mods talk about in the mod room. They are the percent of people on here that are complete dumbasses and annoy the fuck out of us and piss us off. Dont even try to tell me that you love every single member on this board. And I know what you're going to say -- that you DONT like everyone, but that doesnt mean you'll go and talk shit about them on the same board. Well again, I was in the wrong to do that.. BUT, all people do in FFA and GCC is rip on other people because of their opinions or choices. Thats just part of society.. everyone wont get along with everyone no matter what. And as an ex-mod, i know that the higher powers of this board really wouldnt mind blowing away half the members on here... isnt that what TOTD is??

And No, TR isnt the backbone of my life. It hasnt really given me TOO much, so in return I dont feel like I owe it 30% of my efforts and dedication to things as you, aharon, or whoever else may. I know its a valuable part of your business so you must do everything you can to promote it. I know, "its what you make of it" too, but there's not too much I can make of it. All of the social gatherings I cant make b/c i work nights and weekends. Of the 3 people who frequent this room, i am the only one who lives here so having our own gatherings doesnt work. I dont really come here to have people teach me about my car because if i do need to know something, i have FSMs to read thru, other BBSs to search, and an abundance of other web pages with the info. I will tend to go do those things before I post a question on here then wait for a day for someone to answer it.

I have met you more than a few times John, and you should know im not the kind of person who is just out to get everyone.. or someone who is full of hate, or someone who could give a fuck and just walks over whoever is in the way. This is probably the impression people have of me who dont know who i really am, but so be it. Its a damn internet board.

If thats the only thing you see was going on in here, well thats your opinion. Apparently all the other mods and admins feel the same way and again thats why I chose to not post here. Would YOU hang out at a place where the officials think you're a joke and have nothing good to offer the place? Nope. Thats why I packed my bags and left. I'll go to another place and talk about cars if this is how im looked upon here. As for whoring, do you think I really cared that much about my post count? If I did, would I have made a new name (this one) when I wanted a different one.. instead of having you change it like everyone else? You can zero out this name AND FearThe4Doors for all I care.